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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old May 29, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Check the current status of aircraft reconfigured (or delivered) with new Polaris seats: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3.

A Polaris Update and Polaris Mod Schedule to indicate the status of specific aircraft are maintained by those that manage the United Airlines Fleet Website.

Except for 773- and 781-operated flights, and those markets selling Premium Plus, Polaris-equipped planes have not been allocated to specific routes. You won't know until approx. 36-48 hours before departure if you'll have a newly reconfigured aircraft, and even then, it may be replaced with a non-retrofitted aircraft.

777-300ER - All 22 aircraft have Polaris (60 seats) and installation of Premium Plus cabins (24 seats) is complete.

767-300ER - As of September 2020, 31 of the 38 aircraft have been reconfigured with the Polaris seats.
- Retrofit is from 3-cabin to 2-cabin with direct-aisle-access seats. No 3-cabin 767s remain in service.
- 76A configuration is 30J/50Y+/134Y, total of 214; fleet to consist of 17 ships (former 3-cabin 767s).
- 76L configuration is 46J/22PE/47Y+/52Y; fleet to consist of 21 ships (18 former 2-cabin 76C and 3 used ships from Hawaiian).

767-400ER - [16 aircraft] None updated yet; modifications put on hold due to Covid-19.

777-200ER - As of September 2020, 46 of the 50 aircraft have been reconfigured with Polaris and Premium Plus seats.
- Configuration is 50 Polaris seats, 32 in the front cabin and 18 in the second cabin (behind 2L/R)
- Configuration is 10 across in economy, with 24 Premium Plus seats, 46 86 E+ seats and 156 E seats, with E+ in front economy cabin plus exit rows and bulkhead at 3L/R, i.e., almost the same as current pmCO planes, except with 4 seats in middle section.
- Seat map (v5) on united.com

787-8, 787-9 - As of November 2022, all 787-8/9 are converted or in mod. No chance of flying old configuration anymore.
- 788 configuration has 28 Polaris seats (20 in front cabin, 8 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).
- 789 configuration has 48 Polaris seats (32 in front cabin, 16 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).

787-10 - 13 787-10s have been delivered in 2020. All come with Polaris and Premium Plus cabins factory-installed. Another 19 should be added by 2024.

FAQ:
Q: Does a Polaris ticket mean the aircraft has the new Polaris seat?

A: No, Polaris is the label UA uses for long haul international business class. It is also the label UA uses for the new seats, so this does create some confusion.
All the 773s and 787-10s are 100% the new seat.
The rest of the long haul fleet in various stages of conversion, see http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3

Q: How to tell if my aircraft is the new style Polaris seats?
A: If the unassigned business class section is showing orange seats or all the seats are side-by-side or there is a section for 4 adjacent seats in the middle, this is an old style lie-flat aircreaft
If the unassigned bussines class seats are dark blue seats or the all the seats appear to have direct aisle access, then you aircraft is the new Polaris seat.
You can also look at the FT maintained, United Fleet Site and crosscheck the tail number or check thePolaris Update tab

Q: How to tell if my aircraft has the new PremiumPlus (PP) / Premium Economy seats?
A: If the unassigned seats just behind business class are purple seats or the aircraft is 773 or 787-10, then yes. However, the purple color seat will only show on routes where PP is being sold.
Aircraft with PP seats are being used on some routes but are not being sold as PP. In those cases, the seats are considered to be a part of E+. In those cases, an indicator of PP sold as E+ will be if the first few rows of economy, there are just 2 seats on the sides (with the rest of E+ showing 3 seats).

Q: Will the aircraft I see at booking be the same configuration at flight time?
A: Unfortunately with the fleet in transit, aircraft swaps happen. UA tends to use placeholders until 2 days before travel and even after that last minute swaps do happen.

Q: My flight seat map shows 772 with polaris seats is it a retrofit?
A: Possibly. The flight status page shows the most accurate scheduled aircraft. If a 77W is swapped in, it will list the aircraft as 777-300ER. However, if the 772's seatmap shows blue rectangular boxes in the business class cabin instead of orange "pointy rounds", this would indicate that a retrofit aircraft has been swapped.

See also: United Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris seats

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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old Sep 5, 2017, 6:42 am
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Originally Posted by phkc070408
Which is why I searched over a month out.
With only a single plane in that configuration, UA is unlikely to update any seat maps a month ahead of time. You'll likely see the regular 763 seat map until an actual equipment decision is made, a day or two before the flight.
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Old Sep 5, 2017, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by jsloan
With only a single plane in that configuration, UA is unlikely to update any seat maps a month ahead of time. You'll likely see the regular 763 seat map until an actual equipment decision is made, a day or two before the flight.
And that will likely be the default for some time.
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Old Sep 5, 2017, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by phkc070408
Which is why I searched over a month out.
I doubt they will schedule this configuration on a plane for a while, but instead surprise and delight, IMO best chances are if you book a 2 cabin 763 as seat counts are identical
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According to FR24 N644UA is expected to ferry SFO-EWR on 6Sep as UA2784, so I expect the first revenue flight to be ex EWR
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Old Sep 6, 2017, 2:57 pm
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A third 763 is heading over to HKG right now to get the new seats.
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Old Sep 7, 2017, 11:35 pm
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Originally Posted by N104UA
According to FR24 N644UA is expected to ferry SFO-EWR on 6Sep as UA2784, so I expect the first revenue flight to be ex EWR
Quite right! Looks like it is going to LHR as UA 110 this Friday evening.
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Quite right! Looks like it is going to LHR as UA 110 this Friday evening.
Interesting is that it appears 1A is blocked for pilot rest where historically they have been in the back of the cabin.
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Old Sep 8, 2017, 8:13 am
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Interesting is that it appears 1A is blocked for pilot rest where historically they have been in the back of the cabin.
You mean like 6B on the 772?
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Originally Posted by N104UA
Interesting is that it appears 1A is blocked for pilot rest where historically they have been in the back of the cabin.
Ah man, I was hoping that wouldn't be the case! That leaves just 2 big footwell seats :/
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Old Sep 8, 2017, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
You mean like 6B on the 772?
On the 763 and 3 cabin 772As is/was 2L in F (Last row), on the 2 cabin 767s it is the last row with the center seat, and on the 752 it is 4B.
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TPG got a look on the new bird. Looks great - and probably the best ride upfront on a 767 anywhere (UA best at something...shocking!). Excited to try it out (if I happen to luck onto one of these planes)!
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
TPG got a look on the new bird. Looks great - and probably the best ride upfront on a 767 anywhere (UA best at something...shocking!). Excited to try it out (if I happen to luck onto one of these planes)!
Not just upfront from their pictures looks like the best Y on any long haul UA plane too
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TPG got a look on the new bird. Looks great - and probably the best ride upfront on a 767 anywhere (UA best at something...shocking!).!
Pretty favorable review, including some nice pix!

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/uni...retrofit-tour/
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Where the heck did he get a measurement of 18.5 inches for the economy seats? They've always been 17.3 inches wide and I'd be surprised if they went with wider slimlines.

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Those crew rest seats look like a preview of what a UA Premium Economy would look like if they ever decide to add it...
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