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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old May 29, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Check the current status of aircraft reconfigured (or delivered) with new Polaris seats: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3.

A Polaris Update and Polaris Mod Schedule to indicate the status of specific aircraft are maintained by those that manage the United Airlines Fleet Website.

Except for 773- and 781-operated flights, and those markets selling Premium Plus, Polaris-equipped planes have not been allocated to specific routes. You won't know until approx. 36-48 hours before departure if you'll have a newly reconfigured aircraft, and even then, it may be replaced with a non-retrofitted aircraft.

777-300ER - All 22 aircraft have Polaris (60 seats) and installation of Premium Plus cabins (24 seats) is complete.

767-300ER - As of September 2020, 31 of the 38 aircraft have been reconfigured with the Polaris seats.
- Retrofit is from 3-cabin to 2-cabin with direct-aisle-access seats. No 3-cabin 767s remain in service.
- 76A configuration is 30J/50Y+/134Y, total of 214; fleet to consist of 17 ships (former 3-cabin 767s).
- 76L configuration is 46J/22PE/47Y+/52Y; fleet to consist of 21 ships (18 former 2-cabin 76C and 3 used ships from Hawaiian).

767-400ER - [16 aircraft] None updated yet; modifications put on hold due to Covid-19.

777-200ER - As of September 2020, 46 of the 50 aircraft have been reconfigured with Polaris and Premium Plus seats.
- Configuration is 50 Polaris seats, 32 in the front cabin and 18 in the second cabin (behind 2L/R)
- Configuration is 10 across in economy, with 24 Premium Plus seats, 46 86 E+ seats and 156 E seats, with E+ in front economy cabin plus exit rows and bulkhead at 3L/R, i.e., almost the same as current pmCO planes, except with 4 seats in middle section.
- Seat map (v5) on united.com

787-8, 787-9 - As of November 2022, all 787-8/9 are converted or in mod. No chance of flying old configuration anymore.
- 788 configuration has 28 Polaris seats (20 in front cabin, 8 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).
- 789 configuration has 48 Polaris seats (32 in front cabin, 16 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).

787-10 - 13 787-10s have been delivered in 2020. All come with Polaris and Premium Plus cabins factory-installed. Another 19 should be added by 2024.

FAQ:
Q: Does a Polaris ticket mean the aircraft has the new Polaris seat?

A: No, Polaris is the label UA uses for long haul international business class. It is also the label UA uses for the new seats, so this does create some confusion.
All the 773s and 787-10s are 100% the new seat.
The rest of the long haul fleet in various stages of conversion, see http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3

Q: How to tell if my aircraft is the new style Polaris seats?
A: If the unassigned business class section is showing orange seats or all the seats are side-by-side or there is a section for 4 adjacent seats in the middle, this is an old style lie-flat aircreaft
If the unassigned bussines class seats are dark blue seats or the all the seats appear to have direct aisle access, then you aircraft is the new Polaris seat.
You can also look at the FT maintained, United Fleet Site and crosscheck the tail number or check thePolaris Update tab

Q: How to tell if my aircraft has the new PremiumPlus (PP) / Premium Economy seats?
A: If the unassigned seats just behind business class are purple seats or the aircraft is 773 or 787-10, then yes. However, the purple color seat will only show on routes where PP is being sold.
Aircraft with PP seats are being used on some routes but are not being sold as PP. In those cases, the seats are considered to be a part of E+. In those cases, an indicator of PP sold as E+ will be if the first few rows of economy, there are just 2 seats on the sides (with the rest of E+ showing 3 seats).

Q: Will the aircraft I see at booking be the same configuration at flight time?
A: Unfortunately with the fleet in transit, aircraft swaps happen. UA tends to use placeholders until 2 days before travel and even after that last minute swaps do happen.

Q: My flight seat map shows 772 with polaris seats is it a retrofit?
A: Possibly. The flight status page shows the most accurate scheduled aircraft. If a 77W is swapped in, it will list the aircraft as 777-300ER. However, if the 772's seatmap shows blue rectangular boxes in the business class cabin instead of orange "pointy rounds", this would indicate that a retrofit aircraft has been swapped.

See also: United Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris seats

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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old Jul 26, 2017, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by warrenw
They won't be retrofitted ever, or just not in the next few years as they're new?

And I thought the -10's were getting them?
I've heard they eventually well, but at the end of the line or when due for heavy maintenance. Same with 764. The already 2-class 763 may not get the reconfiguration.
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Old Jul 26, 2017, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by smxflyer
I've heard they eventually well, but at the end of the line or when due for heavy maintenance. Same with 764. The already 2-class 763 may not get the reconfiguration.
That would make sense, it's a decent seat already and they are relatively newly delivered, so why waste money. I'm sure they'll start in 5 years or so.
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Old Jul 26, 2017, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by warrenw
That would make sense, it's a decent seat
Save for row 1, I'd say J on the 763 is far from descent.
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Old Jul 27, 2017, 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
Save for row 1, I'd say J on the 763 is far from descent.
I think they were talking about 787s
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Old Jul 27, 2017, 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by Zeug
I find it ironic that none of the Polaris seated aircraft fly from the only Polaris lounge in Chicago. In other words it is impossible to experience the full Polaris experience in 2017.

You can either fly a Polaris seated aircraft or visit a Polaris lounge, but United doesn't see the need to combine the two. A pretty disjointed rollout if you ask me.

That being said, I really enjoy the Polaris lounge at ORD and have even booked a bit longer layover to visit the lounge in the past.

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Unless you get extremely lucky with a random one-off swap at ORD. I was on the ORD-FRA 2:30pm flight and was delighted to see the 772 was swapped to the 77W last week. Nice experience from start to finish. How or why that 77W ended up at ORD is beyond me (it looks like it was ferried EWR-ORD) but I wasn't about to complain about it :-)
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Old Jul 27, 2017, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by Slurve30
Unless you get extremely lucky with a random one-off swap at ORD. I was on the ORD-FRA 2:30pm flight and was delighted to see the 772 was swapped to the 77W last week.
Indeed, UA 944/945 was also operated MO/TU this week! Was temped to SDC, but stuck with the 744 UD. 77W was proudly mentioned by several FRA ground staff I talked to.
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Indeed, UA 944/945 was also operated MO/TU this week! Was temped to SDC, but stuck with the 744 UD. 77W was proudly mentioned by several FRA ground staff I talked to.
I'd take the 744 UD one more time rather than SDC to the 77w. You can always take that one at a later date, but the 744 is going going gone soon!
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Indeed, UA 944/945 was also operated MO/TU this week! Was temped to SDC, but stuck with the 744 UD. 77W was proudly mentioned by several FRA ground staff I talked to.
Ha! I saw this taxiing out at FRA on my LH flight to LCY, and thought, "This is unexpected!"
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Rumples
I'd take the 744 UD one more time rather than SDC to the 77w. You can always take that one at a later date, but the 744 is going going gone soon!
I've said my good byes...<sniff sniff>
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 9:08 pm
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With all the issues UA is having I REALLY hope I didn't screw up by booking TPE-SFO-BOS in POLARIS in December.... DL is advertising their new A350's for NRT-DTW routes...
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Old Jul 29, 2017, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by Rumples
I'd take the 744 UD one more time rather than SDC to the 77w. You can always take that one at a later date, but the 744 is going going gone soon!
Exactly my thought - even though I was a bit tempted since I have yet to get on a 77W.
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Old Jul 29, 2017, 9:29 am
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I saw this pic of the 763 Polaris cabin the other day on Instagram. Not sure if this is a computer drawing or not?

Anyway, someone in the AA forum asked me to post it here.


https://instagram.com/p/BWfczkwhtu1/

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Old Jul 29, 2017, 9:35 am
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Thanks, econometrics!
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Not sure if this is a computer drawing or not?
I do not believe it is a rendering, both based on the image and knowing the guy who posted it.
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Old Jul 29, 2017, 11:32 am
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Looks like the pics were originally from TPG:

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/07/uni...is-first-look/
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