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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old May 29, 17, 2:21 pm
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Check the current status of aircraft reconfigured (or delivered) with new Polaris seats: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3.

A Polaris Update and Polaris Mod Schedule to indicate the status of specific aircraft are maintained by those that manage the United Airlines Fleet Website.

Except for 773- and 781-operated flights, and those markets selling Premium Plus, Polaris-equipped planes have not been allocated to specific routes. You won't know until approx. 36-48 hours before departure if you'll have a newly reconfigured aircraft, and even then, it may be replaced with a non-retrofitted aircraft.

777-300ER - All 22 aircraft have Polaris (60 seats) and installation of Premium Plus cabins (24 seats) is complete.

767-300ER - As of September 2020, 31 of the 38 aircraft have been reconfigured with the Polaris seats.
- Retrofit is from 3-cabin to 2-cabin with direct-aisle-access seats. No 3-cabin 767s remain in service.
- 76A configuration is 30J/50Y+/134Y, total of 214; fleet to consist of 17 ships (former 3-cabin 767s).
- 76L configuration is 46J/22PE/47Y+/52Y; fleet to consist of 21 ships (18 former 2-cabin 76C and 3 used ships from Hawaiian).

767-400ER - [16 aircraft] None updated yet; modifications put on hold due to Covid-19.

777-200ER - As of September 2020, 46 of the 50 aircraft have been reconfigured with Polaris and Premium Plus seats.
- Configuration is 50 Polaris seats, 32 in the front cabin and 18 in the second cabin (behind 2L/R)
- Configuration is 10 across in economy, with 24 Premium Plus seats, 46 86 E+ seats and 156 E seats, with E+ in front economy cabin plus exit rows and bulkhead at 3L/R, i.e., almost the same as current pmCO planes, except with 4 seats in middle section.
- Seat map (v5) on united.com

787-8, 787-9 - As of November 2022, all 787-8/9 are converted or in mod. No chance of flying old configuration anymore.
- 788 configuration has 28 Polaris seats (20 in front cabin, 8 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).
- 789 configuration has 48 Polaris seats (32 in front cabin, 16 in rear mini-cabin), and 21 Premium Plus seats (2-3-2).

787-10 - 13 787-10s have been delivered in 2020. All come with Polaris and Premium Plus cabins factory-installed. Another 19 should be added by 2024.

FAQ:
Q: Does a Polaris ticket mean the aircraft has the new Polaris seat?

A: No, Polaris is the label UA uses for long haul international business class. It is also the label UA uses for the new seats, so this does create some confusion.
All the 773s and 787-10s are 100% the new seat.
The rest of the long haul fleet in various stages of conversion, see http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3

Q: How to tell if my aircraft is the new style Polaris seats?
A: If the unassigned business class section is showing orange seats or all the seats are side-by-side or there is a section for 4 adjacent seats in the middle, this is an old style lie-flat aircreaft
If the unassigned bussines class seats are dark blue seats or the all the seats appear to have direct aisle access, then you aircraft is the new Polaris seat.
You can also look at the FT maintained, United Fleet Site and crosscheck the tail number or check thePolaris Update tab

Q: How to tell if my aircraft has the new PremiumPlus (PP) / Premium Economy seats?
A: If the unassigned seats just behind business class are purple seats or the aircraft is 773 or 787-10, then yes. However, the purple color seat will only show on routes where PP is being sold.
Aircraft with PP seats are being used on some routes but are not being sold as PP. In those cases, the seats are considered to be a part of E+. In those cases, an indicator of PP sold as E+ will be if the first few rows of economy, there are just 2 seats on the sides (with the rest of E+ showing 3 seats).

Q: Will the aircraft I see at booking be the same configuration at flight time?
A: Unfortunately with the fleet in transit, aircraft swaps happen. UA tends to use placeholders until 2 days before travel and even after that last minute swaps do happen.

Q: My flight seat map shows 772 with polaris seats is it a retrofit?
A: Possibly. The flight status page shows the most accurate scheduled aircraft. If a 77W is swapped in, it will list the aircraft as 777-300ER. However, if the 772's seatmap shows blue rectangular boxes in the business class cabin instead of orange "pointy rounds", this would indicate that a retrofit aircraft has been swapped.

See also: United Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris seats

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✨ Polaris (& PP) Retrofits: Schedule, ....

Old Oct 17, 22, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
I’ll hold off the confetti until Tuesday

I figured they would try to stick it to SFO-SIN one last time….
They did throw in a SFO-AMS turn today. It originally had nothing scheduled for today.
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Old Oct 17, 22, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by mike2003242 View Post
They did throw in a SFO-AMS turn today. It originally had nothing scheduled for today.
Oh my goodness how petty, almost Smisek level at that. I had posted in jest and in fact it’s real!
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Old Oct 18, 22, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by mike2003242 View Post
They did throw in a SFO-AMS turn today. It originally had nothing scheduled for today.
My gf just got this jet in J on the return leg, AMS-SFO. Can't wait to tell her how lucky she got . I haven't been following this thread and thought they were done with these back in June...
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Old Oct 18, 22, 3:42 pm
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. . . I haven't been following this thread and thought they were done with these back in June...
We were; it just took United a few months to catch up.

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Old Oct 19, 22, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
Oh my goodness how petty, almost Smisek level at that. I had posted in jest and in fact it’s real!
My wife and I are on UA 1 Saturday in J. I would be fine with either configuration except seat assignments get jumbled up when configurations change. Luckily, that plane is now in GUM and it appears the a non polaris 787 is a thing of the past!
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Old Oct 19, 22, 7:08 am
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My fellow MPers, our long national nightmare is over... the last non-Polaris 787 is due to GUM in about 90 minutes as I write this. It won't operate any more revenue service in the current configuration.
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Old Oct 19, 22, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
My fellow MPers, our long national nightmare is over... the last non-Polaris 787 is due to GUM in about 90 minutes as I write this. It won't operate any more revenue service in the current configuration.
We're merely transferring the long national nightmare to your namesake 764!
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Old Oct 19, 22, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by EWR764 View Post
My fellow MPers, our long national nightmare is over... the last non-Polaris 787 is due to GUM in about 90 minutes as I write this. It won't operate any more revenue service in the current configuration.
Looking forward to the first Polaris 764 which should be done soon. Hopefully there are several mod lines and the 764s will be completed quickly!
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Originally Posted by wxguy View Post
We're merely transferring the long national nightmare to your namesake 764!
Well, let me be the first to say it's about damn time!! Fortunately this is a much smaller fleet, and not operating on 12h+ sectors!
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Old Oct 19, 22, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by mike2003242 View Post
Looking forward to the first Polaris 764 which should be done soon. Hopefully there are several mod lines and the 764s will be completed quickly!
FWIW, they have updated version two on the website, not sure when this happened or if it's discussed, but you can take a look here https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l#v2-767-400er
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Originally Posted by mike2003242 View Post
Looking forward to the first Polaris 764 which should be done soon. Hopefully there are several mod lines and the 764s will be completed quickly!
The prototype is scheduled to fly to GUM tomorrow. Yes, hopefully they could do three at a time later this year when all of the 789s are complete. Real question is when PP will be added to the non-Premium 767-300ERs.
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Old Oct 19, 22, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by jcturnbull View Post
FWIW, they have updated version two on the website, not sure when this happened or if it's discussed, but you can take a look here https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l#v2-767-400er
And the J lavs remain at the rear of the cabin. It's always eye-catching on the 764 to see the pilots do the walk and not have the benefit of being penned-in by a catering cart.
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And the J lavs remain at the rear of the cabin. It's always eye-catching on the 764 to see the pilots do the walk and not have the benefit of being penned-in by a catering cart.
I thought the catering cart was meant to "deter/prevent" a cockpit intrusion when only one pilot is in there, vs providing any real "benefit" to the other pilot using the lav?
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FWIW, they have updated version two on the website, not sure when this happened or if it's discussed, but you can take a look here https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...l#v2-767-400er
Wish it had more E+. That’s a lot of steerage % wise

Said differently - wish these would all go a high J config.
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Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
Wish it had more E+. That’s a lot of steerage % wise

Said differently - wish these would all go a high J config.
Are any of these going to be going hi-J?
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