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Old Jun 20, 19, 12:39 pm   -   Wikipost
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Check the current status of aircraft reconfigured (or delivered) with new Polaris seats: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris...-desktop-4/p/3

Except for 773- and 781-operated flights, and those markets selling Premium Plus, Polaris-equipped planes have not been allocated to specific routes. You won't know until approx. 36-48 hours before departure if you'll have a newly reconfigured aircraft, and even then, it may be replaced with a non-retrofitted aircraft.

777-300ER - All 18 aircraft have Polaris (60 seats) and installation of Premium Plus cabins (24 seats) is complete. New deliveries (4) in 2019-2020 will come with Polaris and Premium Plus from the factory.

767-300ER - As of 1 Apr. 2019, 14 of the 38 aircraft have been reconfigured with the Polaris seats.
- Retrofit is from 3-cabin to 2-cabin with direct-aisle-access seats. No 3-cabin 767s remain in service.
- 76A configuration is 30J/50Y+/134Y, total of 214; fleet to consist of 14 ships (former 3-cabin 767s).
- 76L configuration is 46J/22PE/47Y+/52Y; fleet to consist of 17 ships (14 former 2-cabin 76C and 3 used ships from Hawaiian).

767-400ER - None updated yet but modifications set to begin in 2020.

777-200ER - As of 18 Apr. 2019, 22 of the 55 aircraft have been reconfigured with Polaris and Premium Plus seats, 5 units being refurbished.
- United says all 777-200ER will be complete by 2020
- Configuration will have 50 Polaris seats, 32 in front cabin and 18 in second cabin (behind 2L/R)
- Configuration will be 10 across in economy, with 24 Premium Plus seats, 46 86 E+ seats and 156 E seats, with E+ in front economy cabin plus exit rows and bulkhead at 3L/R, i.e., almost the same as current pmCO planes, except with 4 seats in middle section.
- Seat map (v5) on united.com

787-8, 787-9 - None modified yet but slated to begin in late 2019. 13 787-9s ordered for 2020 delivery will come with Polaris and Premium Plus.

787-10 - 6 of 14 787-10s have been delivered. All come with Polaris and Premium Plus cabins factory-installed.

FAQ:
Q: My flight seat map shows 772 with polaris seats is it a retrofit?
A: Possibly. The flight status page shows the most accurate scheduled aircraft. If a 77W is swapped in, it will list the aircraft as 777-300ER. However, if the 772's seatmap shows blue rectangular boxes in the business class cabin instead of "pointy rounds", this would indicate that a retrofit aircraft has been swapped.

See also: United Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris seats
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Old Apr 2, 19, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by wxguy View Post
*Individual airline's configurations and load factors can vary these distances.
Yes, UA pushed the 789 beyond the published figure with LAX-SIN. Even SFO-SIN would not be viable if those were definitive (assuming you want cushion of at least 10%).
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Old Apr 15, 19, 5:55 pm
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IAH-EZE POLARIS... How do I know if the aircraft I am flying has been retrofitted?

Currently planning to fly in Polaris in October, flight 819

How will I know if the aircraft servicing the route will have been retro-fitted?
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Old Apr 15, 19, 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by caseminole View Post
Currently planning to fly in Polaris in October, flight 819

How will I know if the aircraft servicing the route will have been retro-fitted?
There's no way to tell this far in advance. The best that you can do is to speculate based upon the type of plane and the progress that they're making on that particular sub-fleet.
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Old Apr 15, 19, 6:11 pm
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Originally Posted by caseminole View Post
Currently planning to fly in Polaris in October, flight 819

How will I know if the aircraft servicing the route will have been retro-fitted?
As mention, there will remain some uncertainty during the transition.

If the business class cabin seats are blue on the seat map, the plan is for the new Polaris seats. If orange, the older lie-flat seats. If purple, you are seeing PremiumPlus (premium economy). As the retrofit progesses, more orange seats will change to blue.

It is known the 787-8 , 787-9 and 764 will be among the last to be converted and the pmUA 3-class 772 will be all converted by fall 2019. The conversion of 763 (40% done) and pmCO772 has started but will continue into 2020. The 77W and 787-10 come with new seats

and there are no plans for the 772HD / Hawaii aircraft.
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Old Apr 16, 19, 12:11 am
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My question: What's so important in BCN that would make them put the scarce (for now) Polaris and P+ seats on that route?
I seem to recall that they (UA, others?) pumped capacity into BCN to counter TATL LCC competition (might have been WOW, Norwagian).
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Old Apr 17, 19, 12:22 am
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I'm hoping this just an IT error, but N78001, after being in HKG for 2 months, currently scheduled on 896(18) HKG-ORD, is it is showing the old pmCO configuration. The fleet site did have a "?" after the words "Polaris/PE" in the status column, so this was always a possibility, but I was hoping that wouldn't be the case.
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Old Apr 17, 19, 3:34 pm
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How many Polaris seats will be in the refitted 764,788 and 789?
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer View Post
How many Polaris seats will be in the refitted 764,788 and 789?
at the very least, same number of business seats as before, if previous conversion is any guide. for 789, i think there is a small possibility that a subfleet can be created with more business class seats and less economy seats. both 788 and 789 should see premium plus, not sure about 764.,
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N78001 confirmed in Polaris/PE.
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Forgive me if this is answered upthread, but the Wiki says 14/38 of the 763s are converted, with the 76A ultimately to consist of only 14 birds. So do we know how many 76A birds are currently converted? Or put differently, how many of the current 14 are 76A vs 76L?
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N78001 confirmed in Polaris/PE.

Which routes is that used for?
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Forgive me if this is answered upthread, but the Wiki says 14/38 of the 763s are converted, with the 76A ultimately to consist of only 14 birds. So do we know how many 76A birds are currently converted? Or put differently, how many of the current 14 are 76A vs 76L?
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And for Polaris-specific inquiries: Mainline Fleet: Polaris Update

btw, a huge thanks to those who maintain the fleetsite. what an awesome resource.
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Which routes is that used for?
No flights in particular... none of the sCO 777 routes are dedicated Polaris/PE service.
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Forgive me if this is answered upthread, but the Wiki says 14/38 of the 763s are converted, with the 76A ultimately to consist of only 14 birds. So do we know how many 76A birds are currently converted? Or put differently, how many of the current 14 are 76A vs 76L?
Thw wiki is a little bit out of date. There are now 15 converted and in service. Thatís all 14 76A and one 76L. The 76As were converted to 2 class (no Premium Plus). The 76L is the High J configuration with 46 Polaris, 22 Premium Plus, 47 E+ and 52 Y.

According to the Fleet website (and yes kudos and thanks to the authors for such a great job) there are 4x 763s in mod; 2x 76L and 2 of the used ex-Hawaiian birds. All will get the High J configuration.
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Thw wiki is a little bit out of date. There are now 15 converted and in service. Thatís all 14 76A and one 76L. The 76As were converted to 2 class (no Premium Plus). The 76L is the High J configuration with 46 Polaris, 22 Premium Plus, 47 E+ and 52 Y.

According to the Fleet website (and yes kudos and thanks to the authors for such a great job) there are 4x 763s in mod; 2x 76L and 2 of the used ex-Hawaiian birds. All will get the High J configuration.
Will the high-density J 763s take longer given the amount of work that is needed?
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