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[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight [2017]

[Consolidated] Chance of upgrade clearing on my flight [2017]

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Old Nov 28, 17, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
It's a risky strategy. Technically, SDC is not allowed due to the NH segment, though you may be able to do it if it's booked as a UA codeshare. If you are able to SDC, the odds of open R on LAX-SIN are not great. And waitlisting is not allowed within T-24. Additionally, the odds are that if you can SDC, you're going to be riding in Y IAD-LAX, which is approximately the same length flight as NRT-SIN.

Are you cleared on IAD-NRT? If so, I would not even consider giving that up unless I was able to confirm into R on LAX-SIN.
Thanks Kacee!
The NH segment is a UA codeshare, so I think I would be able to SDC to the LAX flight.
I forgot to consider that waitlisting is not allowed within T-24. Can I still apply the GPU and have it cleared at the gate though?

I am cleared on IAD-NRT, but thought it would be fun to try the LAX-SIN route if I had the chance.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
It's a risky strategy. Technically, SDC is not allowed due to the NH segment, though you may be able to do it if it's booked as a UA codeshare. If you are able to SDC, the odds of open R on LAX-SIN are not great. And waitlisting is not allowed within T-24. Additionally, the odds are that if you can SDC, you're going to be riding in Y IAD-LAX, which is approximately the same length flight as NRT-SIN.

Are you cleared on IAD-NRT? If so, I would not even consider giving that up unless I was able to confirm into R on LAX-SIN.
Agreed. I also have a soft spot for NH. In particular, assuming it is the evening NRT-SIN, my couple of experiences indicate that it will be exceedingly empty.

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Originally Posted by bobsim View Post
Thanks Kacee!
The NH segment is a UA codeshare, so I think I would be able to SDC to the LAX flight.
I forgot to consider that waitlisting is not allowed within T-24. Can I still apply the GPU and have it cleared at the gate though?

I am cleared on IAD-NRT, but thought it would be fun to try the LAX-SIN route if I had the chance.
If R is open before T-3 you can easily apply the GPU. Not sure about getting the GA to do it.

Given that you are cleared IAD-NRT, though, I would just fly as booked and spend my time thinking about other things. Enjoy the lounges in Japan.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by fumje View Post
Agreed. I also have a soft spot for NH. In particular, assuming it is the evening NRT-SIN, my couple of experiences indicate that it will be exceedingly empty.
That's good to know. I read that NH may offer to put *Gs in premium economy sometimes, so initially my plan was to pray for that to happen from NRT-SIN. But Y in NH isn't bad at all and NRT is a great airport to transit through.

Would love to try LAX-SIN though, especially now when the loads seem pretty light.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by bobsim View Post
I forgot to consider that waitlisting is not allowed within T-24. Can I still apply the GPU and have it cleared at the gate though?
Only into open R. You can have 15 empty J seats and there's no guaranty UA will ever open R.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by fumje View Post
Agreed. I also have a soft spot for NH. In particular, assuming it is the evening NRT-SIN, my couple of experiences indicate that it will be exceedingly empty.

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If R is open before T-3 you can easily apply the GPU. Not sure about getting the GA to do it.

Given that you are cleared IAD-NRT, though, I would just fly as booked and spend my time thinking about other things. Enjoy the lounges in Japan.
+1

Also disagree on NRT-SIN being empty (both NH flights are evening flights but NH803 departs an hour earlier): NH801's been full every time I've flown it; most recently got a double upgrade from Y to C although I suspect that was in part due to a swap from the regularly scheduled 3-4-3 77W (before the switch to 789) to 2-4-3.

And this probably is a personal thing but I much prefer the midnight arrivals from NRT than the early morning SFO/LAX-SIN… much better for jet lag IMHO.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by truncated View Post
+1

Also disagree on NRT-SIN being empty (both NH flights are evening flights but NH803 departs an hour earlier): NH801's been full every time I've flown it; most recently got a double upgrade from Y to C although I suspect that was in part due to a swap from the regularly scheduled 3-4-3 77W (before the switch to 789) to 2-4-3.

And this probably is a personal thing but I much prefer the midnight arrivals from NRT than the early morning SFO/LAX-SIN much better for jet lag IMHO.
Ah yes, I was referring to 801 (1655 isn't 'evening' in my view, although obviously that could be unclear).

But actually you bring up a good point; I last took that flight last year, before UA stopped running NRT-SIN. When it was going, I suspect it captured most of the US-originating traffic, but now that it's gone, NH801 may be rather fuller.
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Old Dec 1, 17, 8:50 pm
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I know PS flights are a difficult upgrade, but is there a decent possibility for R opening up on a flight next labor day (unless I receive a GS RPU)? Currently P9 PN2 R0 RN0
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Old Dec 1, 17, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by steveman518 View Post
I know PS flights are a difficult upgrade, but is there a decent possibility for R opening up on a flight next labor day (unless I receive a GS RPU)? Currently P9 PN2 R0 RN0
very unlikely to see R space open up for holiday weekend p.s. flights... I would try to secure that GS RPU and immediately book it since PN is showing availability.
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Old Dec 2, 17, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by jjmoore View Post
Conversation with GS agent revealed that there are 4 XN + GPU and 2 W + GPU (my wife and myself). Earlier this year, my wife cleared ahead of me on her XN + GPU while I was booked Q + GPU and cleared several days later. My ticket was booked prior to her XN ticket too... so nothing makes sense about how they queue us up to clear into PN.

I doubt there will end up being a single I/IN on this flight... right now, I'm feeling that if we clear, it will be at the gate given only 15/48 available at this point. GS agent a couple weeks back told me nobody has cleared into PN as of yet, so all confirmed seats are revenue or JN at this point.
Just a guess but since GS are the only ones who can upgrade an award ticket with a GPU, the UA IT team forgot to code XN as a fare class lower than the other fare classes that certs work on. So it's possible that XN is equivalent to "Y" for upgrade purposes and that's why GS + XN is getting PN before GS + W or GS + Q gets PN. That's the only explanation, especially if you're sure the GS + Q ticketed before the GS + XN ticketed.

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Old Dec 4, 17, 9:37 am
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SINLAX upgrades

Hi There,
I am scheduled to travel SIN-LAX January 7th and requested a MUA on a "U" class fare on the 7'th November as a Premier Platinum. I now SIN-SFO is insanely hard to get an upgrade although it's old Polaris compared to HKG-SFO which has the new classy polaris. As of today the available classes stands as below.
  • J9
  • JN5
  • C5
  • D0
  • Z0
  • ZN0
  • P0
  • PN0
  • R0
  • RN0
  • IN0
  • I0
  • Y9
  • YN9
  • B9
  • M9
  • E9
  • U9
  • H9
  • HN9
  • Q0
  • V0
  • W0
  • S0
  • T0
  • L0
  • K0
  • G0
  • N9
  • XN0
  • X0
The flight is a 787-9 with 48 business seats and are currently 25 available. Any information would be great otherwise I am planning to switch to SIN-HKG-SFO route as there are new polaris available for upgrade for the HKG-SFO route.
Thanks to all of you.
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Old Dec 4, 17, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by adr7090 View Post
Hi There,
I am scheduled to travel SIN-LAX January 7th and requested a MUA on a "U" class fare on the 7'th November as a Premier Platinum. I now SIN-SFO is insanely hard to get an upgrade although it's old Polaris compared to HKG-SFO which has the new classy polaris. As of today the available classes stands as below.
  • J9
  • JN5
  • C5
  • D0
The flight is a 787-9 with 48 business seats and are currently 25 available. Any information would be great otherwise I am planning to switch to SIN-HKG-SFO route as there are new polaris available for upgrade for the HKG-SFO route.
Thanks to all of you.
Welcome to FlyerTalk!

When using Expert Mode to determine upgrade chances, you always want to search for just the overwater segment you're interested in. On January 7, SIN-SFO is J3 JN3 C1 D0 and SIN-LAX is J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z0. It's not clear from your message which of the two you're on, but your chances are basically zero on SIN-SFO and low on SIN-LAX. (They're only selling three seats on SIN-SFO, and they're not selling any discount seats on SIN-LAX). Also, the seat map is an unreliable indicator of load. You can get a better idea from the flight status page: SIN-SFO / SIN-LAX . Click on the "United Polaris business Upgrade Standby List." You may need to try reloading / clicking a few times. SIN-SFO is booked 43/48 and SIN-LAX is booked 26/48.

UA no longer flies SIN-HKG. It's unlikely you would be able to switch to SIN-HKG-SFO-LAX without paying a substantial difference in fare. UA is attempting to route people on the nonstops or via the ANA Joint Venture through Tokyo (on a 7-hour flight on ANA which you wouldn't be able to upgrade).

Even ignoring paid business class traffic, keep in mind that every single GS or 1K member will have applied an upgrade certificate to this flight if they have any left, and they will all be ahead of you on the waiting list.

Hope this helps...

Last edited by jsloan; Dec 4, 17 at 1:32 pm Reason: typo
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Old Dec 4, 17, 1:28 pm
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Thanks so much,..this really helps. In fact I will be flying the SIN-LAX flight
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Old Dec 4, 17, 1:31 pm
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My alternative is to use the award ticket, SIN-HKG-SFO, with 205K miles and it has availability than going on economy plus on SIN-LAX for 15 hours-seats are uncomfortable for that long of a flight and the service is pretty bad on United economy compared to Qatar, Etihad, Emirates, and other top tier airlines. Plus the toilets are also generally not that clean on UA but a notch higher than Air India.
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Old Dec 4, 17, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by adr7090 View Post
My alternative is to use the award ticket, SIN-HKG-SFO, with 205K miles and it has availability than going on economy plus on SIN-LAX for 15 hours-seats are uncomfortable for that long of a flight and the service is pretty bad on United economy compared to Qatar, Etihad, Emirates, and other top tier airlines. Plus the toilets are also generally not that clean on UA but a notch higher than Air India.
Are you looking for a one-way ticket or a round-trip ticket? Either way, if upgrade space is available from HKG-SFO, it may make sense to consider purchasing HKG-SFO-LAX, upgrading it, and then using miles for SIN-HKG. (I'd recommend flying SIN-HKG the night before your HKG-SFO departure, though). If you're looking for a round-trip ticket, you may actually find that flying into SIN in one direction and HKG in the other is actually a pretty good price.
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Old Dec 4, 17, 1:50 pm
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You made great suggestion, I am definitely going to try my options for that. I will be flying one way SIN to LAX. Thanks so much for the advice.
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