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Old Jan 5, 2017, 10:52 am
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Why is UA 246 (YVR-ORD) Jan 6 showing arrival at Terminal 5 (intl) vs domestic gates?

UA 246 (YVR-ORD) for Jan. 6 is showing arrival into Terminal 5, International gates @ORD tomorrow. This implies that there would not be US preclearance @YVR, something that usually only happens for the summertime red-eye flights to ORD, which depart after US CBP has closed @YVR.

What do FT sages make of this odd gate assignment?
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 11:08 am
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Typical UA IT errors.

UA 246 will leave from YVR's Transborder Terminal.
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by transportprof
UA 246 (YVR-ORD) for Jan. 6 is showing arrival into Terminal 5, International gates @ORD tomorrow. This implies that there would not be US preclearance @YVR, something that usually only happens for the summertime red-eye flights to ORD, which depart after US CBP has closed @YVR.

What do FT sages make of this odd gate assignment?
Don't most int'l terminals (in U.S.) have options for arrivals - border control path for deplaning passengers or cleared path (directly into terminal)? I don't know if ORD T5 is set up that way...

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Old Jan 5, 2017, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by transportprof
... What do FT sages make of this odd gate assignment?
Given the various dynamics, gate assignments more than 3-4 hours prior to departure should not be considered final and in airport irrops conditions one should be regularly checking.

At SFO, my departure gate is almost 100% not the gate show the day before.

If this sticks, it may be a gate availability issue -- but wait til closer to departure before making plans.
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Don't most int'l terminals (in U.S.) have options for arrivals - border control path for deplaning passengers or cleared path (directly into terminal)? I don't know if ORD T5 is set up that way...
That would be my take on this as I've arrived on a domestic flight many times at the International Terminal at SFO and we deplaned directly into the terminal
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I'm sure it will update to a T1 gate at some point today or tomorrow.
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 12:07 pm
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Thanks for the feedback. My main concern is not about the pre-clearance, but about winding up stuck in T-5 @ORD with a connection from T-1, C gates. That is quite a trek, even if we arrive pre-cleared and are released directly into the arrivals at T-5.
I agree that UA's IT is likely the culprit here and that we won't wind up in T-5, but if we do it will be an unpleasant transfer. Good thing I have > 2 hours on this connection.
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 12:08 pm
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That would be my take on this as I've arrived on a domestic flight many times at the International Terminal at SFO and we deplaned directly into the terminal
Definitely--esp if its an aircraft they plan on flying international later on. I've taken flights from ORD and IAH to SFO where its clear they will be flying it on later to Asia (788, 772) so we deplane at the international terminal.
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Don't most int'l terminals (in U.S.) have options for arrivals - border control path for deplaning passengers or cleared path (directly into terminal)? I don't know if ORD T5 is set up that way...
While this is certainly possible, all of UA's departures at ORD are from T1 or T2.
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by JAaronT
While this is certainly possible, all of UA's departures at ORD are from T1 or T2.
It is not an uncommon practice for deplaning at one terminal and tow to another for boarding of next flight. Or they may just change the arrival gate, eventually.

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Old Jan 5, 2017, 2:09 pm
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Definitely--esp if its an aircraft they plan on flying international later on. I've taken flights from ORD and IAH to SFO where its clear they will be flying it on later to Asia (788, 772) so we deplane at the international terminal.
I think ORD and SFO are very different here. At SFO because the international terminal is connected to UA's domestic terminal, it is ok for an aircraft to dump domestic pax into the international terminal. At ORD, however, T5 and UA's domestic terminal are far apart, so I've never seen UA dumping domestic pax into T5 before. Moreover, I have never seen UA's international flight to **depart** from T5 either (they do arrive into T5 though).
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
...At ORD, however, T5 and UA's domestic terminal are far apart, so I've never seen UA dumping domestic pax into T5 before. Moreover, I have never seen UA's international flight to **depart** from T5 either (they do arrive into T5 though).
UA occasionally dumps passengers into TBIT at LAX (only recently connected by airside walkway), and then gets towed to T7 for boarding...
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
UA occasionally dumps passengers into TBIT at LAX (only recently connected by airside walkway), and then gets towed to T7 for boarding...
Flights that don't require immigration/customs clearance?
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 4:34 pm
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I love how everything gets blamed on IT errors.

Flight showing arrival at an international gate? IT error.

Flight attendant served you the wrong drink? IT error.

I guess since we can't blame everything on $MI/J anymore...
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Old Jan 5, 2017, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
UA occasionally dumps passengers into TBIT at LAX (only recently connected by airside walkway), and then gets towed to T7 for boarding...
Only for flights that need to go through immigration, and at times when immigration is not open in T7. (eg, the flights from Australia)
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