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#751
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: East Coast, USA
Posts: 1,032
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...st/dining.aspx
However, the flight status for non-ps transcon redeye (21:01 departure or later) still says "Snack" rather than "Refreshments" for today and tomorrow (so does my redeye flight next week). Just want to make sure.
#752
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Japan
Posts: 5,577
Seriously, how much money are these changes really going to save them? What happened to all these big changes under Oscar that were designed to *improve* the product?
Unless it's a cheap P fare, I see no value in buying F on a domestic flight now - I thought the plan was to improve the product so more people would buy it? Not dumb it down until we're back to 80% CPU and then some idiot beancounter decides to yank out half the F seats
I guess ideally I could toss some UC clam chowder in a thermos, grab a few cookies and reject the inflight service and call it even. Why do they even bother? Why not just cancel inflight service altogether and let the crew focus on their People magazines and charge a $5 cleaning fee to every passenger who brings on their own food and drinks
Unless it's a cheap P fare, I see no value in buying F on a domestic flight now - I thought the plan was to improve the product so more people would buy it? Not dumb it down until we're back to 80% CPU and then some idiot beancounter decides to yank out half the F seats
I guess ideally I could toss some UC clam chowder in a thermos, grab a few cookies and reject the inflight service and call it even. Why do they even bother? Why not just cancel inflight service altogether and let the crew focus on their People magazines and charge a $5 cleaning fee to every passenger who brings on their own food and drinks
#753
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: WN, AA, UA, DL
Posts: 1,313
Well it was too good to be true. Thought UA had turned the corner with improved catering. Friend in the know sent me these "changes you'll like" starting 01SEP, oh well today, that were communicated to inflight. Literally reads very similar to what pmCO offered in the 2006 timeframe.
All in all not as big of a change as you make it sound if everything else stays equal. What really matters is quantity, quality, and meal windows.
Exactly...I wish they would actually follow the published standards that are on ua.com and actually list all carve outs. For years I used to whine about TPA/MCO-IAD as they used to receive the "snack" plate which was better than nothing... then a few years ago they shortened the block times on both flights and went to snack basket only. Pretty sure the distance didn't get any shorter and there was never a change in the guidelines.
Let's mix it up. Do either of you have any objective measure to say DL is now ahead of UA? Objectively I can't find one. And subjectively DL is well behind in my experiences. DL's portions have also become comically small now too. I can't imagine the amount of complaints if what's posted in the DL food thread was served on UA.
You're comparing apples to oranges with that route. If flat-beds are important, UA has the most domestic flat-bed flights by far.
#754
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tx
Programs: AA, UA, WN
Posts: 812
Not my cinnamon rolls! Sneaky ua making this change on a friday. I think the roll and ice cream will be complained about the most.
So does this mean no nuts, bread or cookie on lunch flights over 230?
So does this mean no nuts, bread or cookie on lunch flights over 230?
Last edited by Halo117; Sep 2, 2017 at 9:37 pm
#755
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Florida
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 673
My bad - it wasn't the block time they changed, it was when they switched from mileage-based catering to the block times a few years ago is when we lost the snack plates. I believe TPA-IAD was 810 miles and had traditionally always received something. It wasn't until they went to block times that it went to a snack basket only. Regardless, I miss having some sort of substantial food on the route.
#757
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,026
Well it was too good to be true. Thought UA had turned the corner with improved catering. Friend in the know sent me these "changes you'll like" starting 01SEP, oh well today, that were communicated to inflight. Literally reads very similar to what pmCO offered in the 2006 timeframe.
Flights 2:30-2:59 hrs:
Breakfast: Remove breakfast breads only
Lunch: Two cold meal options and a chocolate truffle (vs one hot and one cold option, mixed nuts/bread//side)
Dinner: One hot meal/one cold meal option (vs two hot options); offers mixed nuts/bread/salad/dessert
Flights 3:00-3:59
Breakfast/Lunch: No change
Dinner: One hot meal/one cold meal option (vs two hot options); offers mixed nuts/bread/salad/dessert
Flights 4:00-5:24 (exc. transcons)
Breakfast, lunch and dinner have cold and hot meal options (vs two hot-meals)
Pre-plated dessert replaces ice cream/sorbet on lunch/dinner flights
Sooo...using my CA centric brain, I would guess that puts catering (exc transcons) into 3 tiers where DEN-west Coast falls into tier 1, ORD/IAH-west coast falls into tier 2, and IAD/EWR-west coast falls into tier 3 based on flight times. Then again DEN might be under 2:30, but used a rough estimate. All in all seems odd that they would be doing this
Flights 2:30-2:59 hrs:
Breakfast: Remove breakfast breads only
Lunch: Two cold meal options and a chocolate truffle (vs one hot and one cold option, mixed nuts/bread//side)
Dinner: One hot meal/one cold meal option (vs two hot options); offers mixed nuts/bread/salad/dessert
Flights 3:00-3:59
Breakfast/Lunch: No change
Dinner: One hot meal/one cold meal option (vs two hot options); offers mixed nuts/bread/salad/dessert
Flights 4:00-5:24 (exc. transcons)
Breakfast, lunch and dinner have cold and hot meal options (vs two hot-meals)
Pre-plated dessert replaces ice cream/sorbet on lunch/dinner flights
Sooo...using my CA centric brain, I would guess that puts catering (exc transcons) into 3 tiers where DEN-west Coast falls into tier 1, ORD/IAH-west coast falls into tier 2, and IAD/EWR-west coast falls into tier 3 based on flight times. Then again DEN might be under 2:30, but used a rough estimate. All in all seems odd that they would be doing this
#758
Join Date: May 2006
Location: STL
Programs: UA Platinum, AA Platinum Pro, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,429
I should add that allegedly this is being done with the hope of getting feedback from FAs. So if you don't like it please please please let UA know that they should revert to previous standards.
#759
Join Date: May 2006
Location: STL
Programs: UA Platinum, AA Platinum Pro, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,429
Not a miscater but the standard round trip catering breakfast. Which isn't terrible but a little on the light side for the flight length.
#760
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Madrid
Programs: IB+ Emerald (Platino), M&M Senator (Gold), Meliá Rewards Platino, NH Platinum
Posts: 436
On Sept. 1st I was one of the first victims of the "improved" menu. This is the "lunch" I was offered on ORD-IAH flight at 12.40. Literally 3 cold, small chicken slices, a leaf of lettuce and "salad". Nothing else. No dessert, no cookie, no nuts. Crappy, crappy, crappy
For comparison they are my Iberia, Lot Polish Airlines and Lufthansa real lunch menus on flights of similar duration:
For comparison they are my Iberia, Lot Polish Airlines and Lufthansa real lunch menus on flights of similar duration:
Last edited by Marcin83; Sep 3, 2017 at 10:51 am
#761
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: Mileage Plus 1K; Marriott Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,355
I wonder whether 1Ks will be allowed to substitute the coach buy-on-board offerings? Most of these would be preferable to what you have depicted.
#762
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 15,016
Maybe that's what UA eventually wants to do - have everyone in domestic non-p.s. First order from the BoB menu - it would measurably simplify catering. Someone seated in First shouldn't have to be 1K to ask for something from the back.
#763
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Radisson Premium
Posts: 6,638
Wait... nuts and cookies were removed too? Can someone please clarify?
why haven't these changes been communicated to customers?
why haven't these changes been communicated to customers?
#764
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Madrid
Programs: IB+ Emerald (Platino), M&M Senator (Gold), Meliá Rewards Platino, NH Platinum
Posts: 436
OK, sorry, UA, I forgot to mention the salad dressing which was ... a piece of lemon xD
#765
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Radisson Premium
Posts: 6,638
was there another choice for lunch? I do know that some flights to IAH were 3-class because of the temporary upgauging post-Harvey , but surprised there's no nuts. Major downgrade if this is the case. UA flights have had mixed nuts on all lunch/dinner flights for a decade or more