Forced to gate check rollerboard on ERJ-145
Dec 21, 2016, 6:52 am
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because "right away" is never something I would use to describe the amount of time it takes to get gate-checked bags.Especially at IAD in the winter when you may be standing outside in the cold waiting for the cart to come over.
Dec 21, 2016, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Cargojon
Especially at IAD in the winter when you may be standing outside in the cold waiting for the cart to come over.
Dec 21, 2016, 7:37 am
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...Lastly, someone asked why not just gate check it? I can't count the number of times I've had an hour+ connection in DEN, that got whittled down to 20-30 mins due to weather, de-icing in DRO, or traffic control. Waiting an extra 5 minutes to get a gate checked bag can make all the difference when you have to run down to gate B24 from B90! My Orvis and Northface bags have saved me many a night in Denver... at least there is the Westin now if it happens!
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Dec 21, 2016, 7:54 am
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It may not help much, but as a IK you should have a yellow handle wrap that will (usually) make your bag the first to come up.
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Dec 21, 2016, 8:46 am
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I've taken the puddle jumper from EWR to DCA and back every week for the last few months. I have a small rollerboard that is just narrow enough to fit into the overhead bin of the ERJ 145, and so I always take it on board with me. Today, however, the flight attendant refused to allow me on board with it, even though I explained that it does fit, that I do it every week, and there was a ton of space as I was one of the first to board. She would have none of it and said that rollerboards were not allowed on board. I am wondering, is this an actual policy of United Express that's just very rarely enforced, or an overzealous employee? Does anyone know?
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Dec 21, 2016, 10:14 am
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I have a small TravelPro "Rolling Tote" that fits in the overheads on the -145s and -200s. I always retract the handle and carry it past the threshold rather than rolling it on. It looks more like a small suitcase than a rollaboard when I do that, and I've never had an issue.
Dec 21, 2016, 10:19 am
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As a former XJT ERJ FA at least once a day some pushy passenger insisted their bag fit and 9 times out of 10 it didn't and it created congestion in the aisle. Every once in awhile a bag that didn't fit actually broke the bin. This happened once a month. This would usually cause at least a 30 minute delay while maintenance came out and fixed the IKEA-esque bin.
So here's how I drew the line:
Start-Middle of the trip: sure bring it on, break the bin, I don't care if we're late as I have no where to be and you're only screwing yourself and everyone else that may have a connection. Maybe some people tomorrow to if we get our rest extended due to your actions. Also my contract had pay protection if I cancel or time out.
End of Trip: don't even test me with those bags because you're screwing my chances of getting home.
At $19/HR for 80/hours a month that's about all you can expect. It was a transition job after college while looking for another. Glad I did it but very glad I left it.
Whenever someone used the argument "I fly the ERJ all the time" I usually apologized because that must suck. I know it did for me. 710 flights in 2 years on that plane.
So here's how I drew the line:
Start-Middle of the trip: sure bring it on, break the bin, I don't care if we're late as I have no where to be and you're only screwing yourself and everyone else that may have a connection. Maybe some people tomorrow to if we get our rest extended due to your actions. Also my contract had pay protection if I cancel or time out.
End of Trip: don't even test me with those bags because you're screwing my chances of getting home.
At $19/HR for 80/hours a month that's about all you can expect. It was a transition job after college while looking for another. Glad I did it but very glad I left it.
Whenever someone used the argument "I fly the ERJ all the time" I usually apologized because that must suck. I know it did for me. 710 flights in 2 years on that plane.
Dec 22, 2016, 6:40 pm
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As a former XJT ERJ FA at least once a day some pushy passenger insisted their bag fit and 9 times out of 10 it didn't and it created congestion in the aisle. Every once in awhile a bag that didn't fit actually broke the bin. This happened once a month. This would usually cause at least a 30 minute delay while maintenance came out and fixed the IKEA-esque bin.
So here's how I drew the line:
Start-Middle of the trip: sure bring it on, break the bin, I don't care if we're late as I have no where to be and you're only screwing yourself and everyone else that may have a connection. Maybe some people tomorrow to if we get our rest extended due to your actions. Also my contract had pay protection if I cancel or time out.
End of Trip: don't even test me with those bags because you're screwing my chances of getting home.
At $19/HR for 80/hours a month that's about all you can expect. It was a transition job after college while looking for another. Glad I did it but very glad I left it.
Whenever someone used the argument "I fly the ERJ all the time" I usually apologized because that must suck. I know it did for me. 710 flights in 2 years on that plane.
So here's how I drew the line:
Start-Middle of the trip: sure bring it on, break the bin, I don't care if we're late as I have no where to be and you're only screwing yourself and everyone else that may have a connection. Maybe some people tomorrow to if we get our rest extended due to your actions. Also my contract had pay protection if I cancel or time out.
End of Trip: don't even test me with those bags because you're screwing my chances of getting home.
At $19/HR for 80/hours a month that's about all you can expect. It was a transition job after college while looking for another. Glad I did it but very glad I left it.
Whenever someone used the argument "I fly the ERJ all the time" I usually apologized because that must suck. I know it did for me. 710 flights in 2 years on that plane.
Dec 22, 2016, 6:56 pm
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As a former XJT ERJ FA at least once a day some pushy passenger insisted their bag fit and 9 times out of 10 it didn't and it created congestion in the aisle. Every once in awhile a bag that didn't fit actually broke the bin. This happened once a month. This would usually cause at least a 30 minute delay while maintenance came out and fixed the IKEA-esque bin.
So here's how I drew the line:
Start-Middle of the trip: sure bring it on, break the bin, I don't care if we're late as I have no where to be and you're only screwing yourself and everyone else that may have a connection. Maybe some people tomorrow to if we get our rest extended due to your actions. Also my contract had pay protection if I cancel or time out.
End of Trip: don't even test me with those bags because you're screwing my chances of getting home.
At $19/HR for 80/hours a month that's about all you can expect. It was a transition job after college while looking for another. Glad I did it but very glad I left it.
Whenever someone used the argument "I fly the ERJ all the time" I usually apologized because that must suck. I know it did for me. 710 flights in 2 years on that plane.
So here's how I drew the line:
Start-Middle of the trip: sure bring it on, break the bin, I don't care if we're late as I have no where to be and you're only screwing yourself and everyone else that may have a connection. Maybe some people tomorrow to if we get our rest extended due to your actions. Also my contract had pay protection if I cancel or time out.
End of Trip: don't even test me with those bags because you're screwing my chances of getting home.
At $19/HR for 80/hours a month that's about all you can expect. It was a transition job after college while looking for another. Glad I did it but very glad I left it.
Whenever someone used the argument "I fly the ERJ all the time" I usually apologized because that must suck. I know it did for me. 710 flights in 2 years on that plane.
Happened to me about two years ago CHS-IAD and I should have shot video
Local mechanic came onboard (as you can see) but couldn't get the bin opened and eventually had to break the latch causing the flight to go mx. The flight eventually canceled and flew as a ferry flight with only crew up to IAD with all of us put on the next two scheduled flights to IAD (and fortunately, I had padded my conx at IAD
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Dec 23, 2016, 4:06 pm
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You mean like this...
Happened to me about two years ago CHS-IAD and I should have shot video
Local mechanic came onboard (as you can see) but couldn't get the bin opened and eventually had to break the latch causing the flight to go mx. The flight eventually canceled and flew as a ferry flight with only crew up to IAD with all of us put on the next two scheduled flights to IAD (and fortunately, I had padded my conx at IAD)
Happened to me about two years ago CHS-IAD and I should have shot video
Local mechanic came onboard (as you can see) but couldn't get the bin opened and eventually had to break the latch causing the flight to go mx. The flight eventually canceled and flew as a ferry flight with only crew up to IAD with all of us put on the next two scheduled flights to IAD (and fortunately, I had padded my conx at IAD
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Dec 26, 2016, 5:25 pm
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You mean like this...
Happened to me about two years ago CHS-IAD and I should have shot video
Local mechanic came onboard (as you can see) but couldn't get the bin opened and eventually had to break the latch causing the flight to go mx. The flight eventually canceled and flew as a ferry flight with only crew up to IAD with all of us put on the next two scheduled flights to IAD (and fortunately, I had padded my conx at IAD)
Happened to me about two years ago CHS-IAD and I should have shot video
Local mechanic came onboard (as you can see) but couldn't get the bin opened and eventually had to break the latch causing the flight to go mx. The flight eventually canceled and flew as a ferry flight with only crew up to IAD with all of us put on the next two scheduled flights to IAD (and fortunately, I had padded my conx at IAD
)If people have wheeled bags and aren't permitted to bring it on, instead being forced to check it, then 1) the bin goes empty.
but...if someone brings it on and for unknown reasons the bin is jammed and the latch has to be broken, then 2) the bin goes empty...AND the flight is (according to this post) cancelled.
Why would this be a reason forcing a cancellation?
Dec 26, 2016, 6:11 pm
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...
If people have wheeled bags and aren't permitted to bring it on, instead being forced to check it, then 1) the bin goes empty.
but...if someone brings it on and for unknown reasons the bin is jammed and the latch has to be broken, then 2) the bin goes empty...AND the flight is (according to this post) cancelled.
Why would this be a reason forcing a cancellation?
If people have wheeled bags and aren't permitted to bring it on, instead being forced to check it, then 1) the bin goes empty.
but...if someone brings it on and for unknown reasons the bin is jammed and the latch has to be broken, then 2) the bin goes empty...AND the flight is (according to this post) cancelled.
Why would this be a reason forcing a cancellation?
Dec 26, 2016, 7:27 pm
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A broken, unable to close bin, is likely a violation of the aircraft certification. Also the open bin door could interfere with an evacuation, The aircraft is unable to fly when the conditions it was certified for are not meet. Believe this similiar to the reason that seats can not be reclined for take-on and landing.
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Dec 26, 2016, 8:13 pm
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