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United is rolling out the 777-300ER to its fleet. These planes will be the first to feature the new Polaris business class seating, with direct aisle access.
Information about the plane from the United website is here
The plane features 60 Polaris class seats, 24 Premium Plus seats, 62 Economy plus seats, and 204 Economy seats. All economy seating is in a 3-4-3 format (except for 2-4-2 in the last two rows of the plane).
Seat width in economy is 17", down from the 18" in the sUA 777-200, and slightly narrower than the 787 width of 17.3". Bassinets are provided in 20EF, 30EF, and 46EF - the center seats on the three bulkhead rows.
Polaris seats have their own power outlets; Economy seats also have power (2 outlets per 3 seats or 2 per 4 seats; all bulkhead seats have their own power). Each seat has a dedicated USB power port as well.
Detailed seating plan: AeroLOPA -- https://www.aerolopa.com/ua-boeing-77w
From sbm12:
I flew on the media preview flight this week and wrote up a detailed report on which seats are good and bad on the new United 77W. Here's a summary of my thoughts.
Polaris Seating
General notes
Economy Plus
Economy
Information about the plane from the United website is here
The plane features 60 Polaris class seats, 24 Premium Plus seats, 62 Economy plus seats, and 204 Economy seats. All economy seating is in a 3-4-3 format (except for 2-4-2 in the last two rows of the plane).
Seat width in economy is 17", down from the 18" in the sUA 777-200, and slightly narrower than the 787 width of 17.3". Bassinets are provided in 20EF, 30EF, and 46EF - the center seats on the three bulkhead rows.
Polaris seats have their own power outlets; Economy seats also have power (2 outlets per 3 seats or 2 per 4 seats; all bulkhead seats have their own power). Each seat has a dedicated USB power port as well.
Detailed seating plan: AeroLOPA -- https://www.aerolopa.com/ua-boeing-77w
From sbm12:
I flew on the media preview flight this week and wrote up a detailed report on which seats are good and bad on the new United 77W. Here's a summary of my thoughts.
Polaris Seating
General notes
- Accessible lav at 2L is the largest on board and useful for PJs changing.
- Row 1 has no overhead bins in the center.
- Galley at 2L/R handles crew meals so will be busier than the forward galley throughout the flight. There is also a "passthrough" at 2L/2R that is not a galley but has shelves for food prep and snacks. As a result, the front row of the second cabin isn't quite as directly exposed to galley noise.
- Bulkhead seats remain the best choice for foot well reasons. "Straight" seats are second best while angled seats have a tapered foot well for the last 10 inches of the bed length.
- The downside of the "straight" seats is the 9" notch to slide in through but overall those will remain my seats of choice. Avoid 6/7/8 for noise reasons IMO.
- Even-row "window" seats are a bit of a misnomer. The window, if any, is across a utility table and not well-positioned for viewing. They're more semi-aisle seats.
- Row 16 has no window. Row 18 has one window far to the rear and part of another forward. The angles are such that you can barely see out of either.
Best Window Seat (best to worst):
- 9A (good seat, but proximity to galley/light/noise and lav should be considered)
- 9L (good seat, but proximity to galley/light/noise and lav should be considered)
- 1A (good seat, but proximity to galley/light/noise should be considered)
- 1L (good seat, but proximity to galley/light/noise should be considered) Picture from 1L
- any other odd-numbered A/L (slight preference to A over L)
- any other even-numbered A/L (slight preference to A over L)
- 7A/L
- 8A/L
- 6A/L
- 16A/L
Best Center Pair Seat (best to worst):
- 9D/G (slight preference to D over G)
- 1D/G (slight preference to D over G)
- Any other odd
- Any other even
- 18
- 6
Economy Plus
- AVOID 30
24A/L [seats renumbered with addition of PP at all costs. Freezing cold in flight and the narrowest seats on board. Plus no window. - Aisle seats are a smidgen narrower and the center 4-block has legroom issues.
- Bulkhead seats have good legroom, very similar to what extending your feet on a normal row would offer.
Economy
- Row 56
50outside pairs are some of the best, though all the way at the back. A little extra space (especially under-seat stowage) and still some overhead space, something 57 lacks. Row 57 also has a misaligned window. - Aisle seats are a smidgen narrower and the center 4-block has legroom issues.
- Baby Bassient Positions in Business: 9A & 9L, PP 20EF, E+ 30EF, 46EF
Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on a 777-300ER
Jan 27, 2019, 2:21 am
#826
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Two days from the flight, the seat map updated. Row 20 is now the first row (2-4-2) in economy. I got reassigned to 20L, which is the same seat, just a different number.
How easy is it to get out of 20L? Should I change to an aisle seat instead? 2-4-2.. there are some aisle seats in the middle row.
Jan 27, 2019, 5:23 am
#827
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I selected 19L when I made the reservation.(showing 2-4-2 on 777-300ER)
Two days from the flight, the seat map updated. Row 20 is now the first row (2-4-2) in economy. I got reassigned to 20L, which is the same seat, just a different number.
How easy is it to get out of 20L? Should I change to an aisle seat instead? 2-4-2.. there are some aisle seats in the middle row.
Two days from the flight, the seat map updated. Row 20 is now the first row (2-4-2) in economy. I got reassigned to 20L, which is the same seat, just a different number.
How easy is it to get out of 20L? Should I change to an aisle seat instead? 2-4-2.. there are some aisle seats in the middle row.
Anyways, it's good to know that the UA swapping seats program worked well for you and kept the same seat choice.
Jan 27, 2019, 9:30 am
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It's very easy to get out as the space in front of the seat is big. However, it did happen once to my wife, on the previous configuration, that her neighbor put his feet on the wall so she had to wait a little to get out. That being said, after that she still chose the window seat in the bulkhead. And I do too (sometimes we are on the opposite side of the plane) just for that reason. When you are in the bulkhead, you feel like you are in your own bubble and not in a dormitory.
Anyways, it's good to know that the UA swapping seats program worked well for you and kept the same seat choice.
Anyways, it's good to know that the UA swapping seats program worked well for you and kept the same seat choice.
That's what I figured. The recline in rows 21 and 22 look quite generous, which means someone will likely lean into me personal space. 20L bulkhead will at least guarantee several feet of inviolable space in front of me and the ability to lean on the wall while I sleep.
Jan 28, 2019, 8:25 pm
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It's very easy to get out as the space in front of the seat is big. However, it did happen once to my wife, on the previous configuration, that her neighbor put his feet on the wall so she had to wait a little to get out. That being said, after that she still chose the window seat in the bulkhead. And I do too (sometimes we are on the opposite side of the plane) just for that reason. When you are in the bulkhead, you feel like you are in your own bubble and not in a dormitory.
Anyways, it's good to know that the UA swapping seats program worked well for you and kept the same seat choice.
Anyways, it's good to know that the UA swapping seats program worked well for you and kept the same seat choice.
based on my recent experience on the 777-300ER with new premium economy 2-4-2 seating, only someone who's 6'6" or more can possibly put his feet on the bulkhead wall in front of 20A/B and 20KL. I can barely touch magazine holders at the bottom of the wall. There's enough room there for the FA to temporarily park the trolley to let someone pass(while I'm still sitting there)
20AB and 20KL are now my favourite seats until they start selling these seats are premium economy. After that, if the price is reasonable enough, I'll pay the extra for those seats.By the way, there was one downside to those seats right now. Several people in business class walked over and asked to try our seats.(particularly those of us in row 20) UA didn't pay us to demo these new seats, so don't keep asking us if we mind getting up so you can try the seats.... the mini cabin was full... I got asked at least 6 times by people from business class. Being a nice guy who was kind of bored during the 13-hour flight, I got up and let them sit in my seat. The hot lady was fine.. but the other 5 were guys who I don't even on my softball team.
I have another 12-hour flight coming up on the 777-300ER in another couple of weeks. Seat map is currently shwoing 2-4-2.. sure hope they don't pull an aircraft swap on me.
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Jan 28, 2019, 10:17 pm
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Interestingly, I see a slightly different version of this for my upcoming 77W flight -- and with the lav in front of 9L gone missing, what's more. Same view in flight status or digging into my reservation directly.
Jan 29, 2019, 5:08 am
#831
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UPDATE:
20AB and 20KL are not my favourite seats.........
By the way, there was one downside to those seats right now. Several people in business class walked over and asked to try our seats.(particularly those of us in row 20) UA didn't pay us to demo these new seats, so don't keep asking us if we mind getting up so you can try the seats.... the mini cabin was full... I got asked at least 6 times by people from business class. Being a nice guy who was kind of bored during the 13-hour flight, I got up and let them sit in my seat.
20AB and 20KL are not my favourite seats.........
By the way, there was one downside to those seats right now. Several people in business class walked over and asked to try our seats.(particularly those of us in row 20) UA didn't pay us to demo these new seats, so don't keep asking us if we mind getting up so you can try the seats.... the mini cabin was full... I got asked at least 6 times by people from business class. Being a nice guy who was kind of bored during the 13-hour flight, I got up and let them sit in my seat.
The rudeness of passengers. I would have told them that if they so wanted my seat I could go sit in their Business Class seats or they need to bring me one glass of Champagne. The one time my wife tried the Premium Plus seats it was half empty. The bulkhead middle section was totally empty.
Jan 29, 2019, 10:32 am
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On the new PE version, the first row of E+ is now 30. Is it right to presume that the new 30 row is identical to the old 24 row? If so, presumably 30A and 30K suffer from the same cold issues as the old 24A and K?
Jan 29, 2019, 10:00 pm
#833
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Did you try to write: '20AB and 20KL are "now" my favorite seats' and the writing program corrected you? I think that another FTer mentioned that in the Premium Plus bulkhead the only section that passengers can now reach the wall to put their feet on it is the middle section.
The rudeness of passengers. I would have told them that if they so wanted my seat I could go sit in their Business Class seats or they need to bring me one glass of Champagne. The one time my wife tried the Premium Plus seats it was half empty. The bulkhead middle section was totally empty.
The rudeness of passengers. I would have told them that if they so wanted my seat I could go sit in their Business Class seats or they need to bring me one glass of Champagne. The one time my wife tried the Premium Plus seats it was half empty. The bulkhead middle section was totally empty.
Yes, Premium PLus 20ABKL seats on 777-300ER are NOW my favourite seats. Only really tall passengers can possibly put their feet on that wall.
I did try the 4 builkhead seats in the middle and they were also quite far from the wall(again, on the 777-300ER). I'm 6'1" and my feet cant go on the middle wall.. Oh wait... are my legs too short?
Don't get me wrong, I also hate it when people put their feet on the wall. I only do to to measure much legroom there is and my feet never actually make contact with the wall. On UA's A319, it's also impossible to put my feet on the bulkhead wall, but that's only because it has the worst legroom in first class.
Jan 30, 2019, 6:39 am
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I selected 19L when I made the reservation.(showing 2-4-2 on 777-300ER)
Two days from the flight, the seat map updated. Row 20 is now the first row (2-4-2) in economy. I got reassigned to 20L, which is the same seat, just a different number.
How easy is it to get out of 20L? Should I change to an aisle seat instead? 2-4-2.. there are some aisle seats in the middle row.
Two days from the flight, the seat map updated. Row 20 is now the first row (2-4-2) in economy. I got reassigned to 20L, which is the same seat, just a different number.
How easy is it to get out of 20L? Should I change to an aisle seat instead? 2-4-2.. there are some aisle seats in the middle row.
So when your seat was moved from 19L to 20L, did you notice if 20L was occupied or not? That is, were you moved to 20L because 20L was empty, or because the software simply mapped 19-20-21 to 20-21-22? Currently I am debating whether to occupy 19L or 20L in the interim seat map. Any suggestions?
Jan 30, 2019, 7:07 am
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Thank you so much for pointing this out! I was also seeing the interim seat map and I had thought that Row 19 is the first row of Premium Plus!
So when your seat was moved from 19L to 20L, did you notice if 20L was occupied or not? That is, were you moved to 20L because 20L was empty, or because the software simply mapped 19-20-21 to 20-21-22? Currently I am debating whether to occupy 19L or 20L in the interim seat map. Any suggestions?
So when your seat was moved from 19L to 20L, did you notice if 20L was occupied or not? That is, were you moved to 20L because 20L was empty, or because the software simply mapped 19-20-21 to 20-21-22? Currently I am debating whether to occupy 19L or 20L in the interim seat map. Any suggestions?
Jan 30, 2019, 8:02 am
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Thank you so much for pointing this out! I was also seeing the interim seat map and I had thought that Row 19 is the first row of Premium Plus!
So when your seat was moved from 19L to 20L, did you notice if 20L was occupied or not? That is, were you moved to 20L because 20L was empty, or because the software simply mapped 19-20-21 to 20-21-22? Currently I am debating whether to occupy 19L or 20L in the interim seat map. Any suggestions?
So when your seat was moved from 19L to 20L, did you notice if 20L was occupied or not? That is, were you moved to 20L because 20L was empty, or because the software simply mapped 19-20-21 to 20-21-22? Currently I am debating whether to occupy 19L or 20L in the interim seat map. Any suggestions?
Just before I got moved automatically from 19L to 20L the day before the flight, all the seats were still taken. I assume prople who had row 19 got moved to 20.(20 to 21, 21 to 22)... but I could be wrong.
Jan 30, 2019, 7:30 pm
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I booked my reservation back in December. I took 19L. Seat map was showing 2-4-2. Rows 19, 20 and 21 were all taken since then.
Just before I got moved automatically from 19L to 20L the day before the flight, all the seats were still taken. I assume people who had row 19 got moved to 20.(20 to 21, 21 to 22)... but I could be wrong.
Just before I got moved automatically from 19L to 20L the day before the flight, all the seats were still taken. I assume people who had row 19 got moved to 20.(20 to 21, 21 to 22)... but I could be wrong.
Jan 30, 2019, 7:40 pm
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There were reports of this for passengers that were not high status.
Jan 30, 2019, 7:55 pm
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Was on a RDU-ORD flight a couple of months ago and there were more than 90 people ahead of me on the upgrade list. 150+ ahead of me on the connecting ORD-SFO flight. (which really surprised me... because it meant almost the entire narrobody plane was filled with at least 151 people with gold status or higher and paid more for their tickets than me)
Jan 30, 2019, 9:23 pm
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