EmailKid

Sure, but by the time I called NH after the switch, they were NOT allowing pax to change like they did with those who called right away. NO refund, NO switch despite THREE calls to NH

I've flown plenty of UA barcaloungers before lie flats came about so I lived to talk about it, though not happily ....

airline101

How about UA Bring back the Seattle-Anchorage flight. That's all I need them to do to be honest.

CALMSP

considering that NRT flight generally ran sub 50% loads with 0 first class taken typically, yes, it should have been cancelled.

SEA-Flyer

Once it got to that point, yes it was inevitable. But the flight wasn’t always like that - for a long time it had decent load factors in all cabins and was an important route for UA. It was the first route (for a long time the only route where it was guaranteed) to get the first class suite back when they introduced it many years ago. SEA was United’s biggest non-Hub operation.

it was surprising the flight held on as long as it did given the cutbacks in Seattle started long before it was dropped.

Melodsal

sbm12

Keep in mind the PQD challenges. NH is a JV partner so those flights should price on 016 stock same as UA fares would. OZ likely won't price well on 016 stock if that matters to you.

As for getting more status, what else would you do with the points? If you're just going to fly DL for the other trips anyways then why not commit and get the higher status tier?

edcho

airline101

Nice!!!!!

evergrn

Really wish UA would get back into SEA market in earnest.

There're 5 transcontinental partner flights daily (including Aer Lingus) that feed UA.
They maintain a good-size lounge that's open almost 20hours a day, which they could've closed or downsized when they switched terminals 4-5 years ago.

I'm not a fan of DL's FF program, and AS doesn't work for me for different reasons. So I stay with UA as my main FF program and keep hoping UA turns its attention back to SEA. Is that possible?

Specifically, I'd like to see UA increase LAX flights to at least 5-6 daily and start service to Hawaii.
Would also like them to resume service to TYO

RobOnLI

I wouldn't bet on it. UA isn't about to compete with a DL hub. And they've already pulled out of SEA as a focus city so they aren't likely to re-enter.

This is akin to AS announcing every 3 or 4 years "hourly" shuttle service to LAX. It lasts about six months and then flights get cancelled.

And I don't understand the comment about not liking DLs program. In some ways it's far superior to UAs. The biggest difference being you know exactly how many miles you will earn for a particular flight because DL goes by marketing carrier, not operating carrier. Good luck figuring out how many miles you will earn on codeshare flights in the UA program. You can't until it posts.

-RM

EmailKid

Sure, I'd love it if UA would make SEA a focus city as well and bring back BKK flights, but UA feels they will make more money elsewhere.

And do you really want UA to fly CRJs, aka the Devil's Chariot to LAX just to increase frequency?

UA really doesn't need a THIRD hub / focus city on West coast @:-) I loved the SEA-NRT, but there's a reason why my upgrades always cleared when I requested them

What is wrong with AS if you are SEA based? Seems like a solid choice to me. Sadly they just announced no PDB in FC as part of slowly becoming less flier friendly, but at least so far still has better service and cleaner planes than UA or AA (don't fly DL at all, so don't know).

PsiFighter37

SFOdelayed

EmailKid

Amazingly enough, no nonstop to DFW (former DL hub), 8th or so largest metropolitan area in USA @:-)

evergrn

We fly to Jpn few times a year. As for domestic US plane trips, I only do it 5-6x a year.
My miles are in UA>>AS>>>DL.
Whether it's UA or AS, saver award redemption for Jpn is far better value than for domestic travels. I want to be able to get close to or better than 2cents to a mile for every redemption. It's almost impossible to get that kind of redemption on domestic flights.
So I almost exclusively use miles to fly to Jpn, and DL miles are essentially unusable for that purpose.

I think UA miles are very easy to use. Multiple saver award seats in Y on nonstops to Jpn are always available (35k each way) from SEA or YVR with enough lead time for peak seasons, sometimes on fairly short notice for non-peak seasons.
AS miles were always more difficult to use than UA. Now with the erosion of their partnerships, it's become even harder. Even when AS and DL were on good terms, you could never find any saver seats on DL's NRT flight. AS miles were only useable on DL's short-lived empty HND red-eyes. After that flight got pulled, I was unable to use AS miles for a long time until JL's YVR flights came along (but this means I have to drive to YVR).

With DL, forget about it. Such crappy redemption. SEA-TYO is always at least 110k miles, whereas I'm always able to book 3 on NH's nonstop with UA miles at 70k each.

With regards to your comment about not knowing how many UA miles you're going to get, I've never had that issue.
If you fly UA codeshare on NH metal, then UA's website makes it clear what you'll earn based on the fare class and whether you booked via UA or NH. And that is what I earn each time. The only issue I have is that sometimes UA miles earned on BR do not post and then I have to call UA later... but I think that's BR's issue.