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This is an archive thread -- the active thread is United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Important Note: these fares became available 21 Feb 2017 for MSP for travel beginning 18 Apr 2017. More markets were added 19 April 2017 for travel starting 9 May 2017.
Related thread: Basic Economy Airport and Plane Experiences (First or Second Hand)
If you booked before the dates above, you did not have a BE fare. If purchased on united.com you will see a warning like:
4. MileagePlus members will earn full Premier qualifying dollars, 50% Premier qualifying miles and 0.5 Premier qualifying segments for each flight, as well as lifetime miles and toward the four-segment minimum.
Link to UA's description of how these fares will work: Basic Economy.
Here are the key facts:
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New UA/*A TATL -LGT Economy fare - no free first bag, no changes/upgrades allowed
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Pre-announcement speculation thread (now closed) New "Budget Economy" fares
Important Note: these fares became available 21 Feb 2017 for MSP for travel beginning 18 Apr 2017. More markets were added 19 April 2017 for travel starting 9 May 2017.
Related thread: Basic Economy Airport and Plane Experiences (First or Second Hand)
If you booked before the dates above, you did not have a BE fare. If purchased on united.com you will see a warning like:
4. MileagePlus members will earn full Premier qualifying dollars, 50% Premier qualifying miles and 0.5 Premier qualifying segments for each flight, as well as lifetime miles and toward the four-segment minimum.
Link to UA's description of how these fares will work: Basic Economy.
Here are the key facts:
- No seat assignments until check-in. Seats will be assigned by the system and cannot be changed.*NEW* When purchasing a Basic Economy ticket, you will not receive a complimentary seat assignment but may be able to purchase advance seat assignments during booking and up until check-in opens. If you don’t purchase an advance seat assignment, your seat will be automatically assigned to you prior to boarding, and you won't be able to change your seat once it's been assigned.
- No guarantee of adjacent seats with companions
- No voluntary ticket changes after 24 hour purchase period
- Carry on limited to 1 personal item unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
- Customers ineligible for carry-on who bring one to the gate will be charged a $25 convenience fee to gate-check in addition to standard baggage fees (source: @united twitter)
- Customers will not be eligible for Economy Plus or premium cabin upgrades. This includes all forms of upgrades (CPU,supported or purchased). Likewise for E+ access (elite or purchased).
- Customers will board in the last boarding group (currently Group 5) unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
- Companions on same PNR will have same boarding group and carryon if one on the PNR has a waiver
- No combinability with regular economy fares or partner carriers. Interline travel is not permitted.
- Tickets will earn RDMs (based on fare and status), PQMs (50% of distance), PQSs (0.5), PQDs, in addition it will count for minimum 4 segment and lifetime miles (New as of Dec 2018)
- Basic Economy tickets will use booking code 'N'
- Online check-in only with paid checked bag, otherwise need to see a United representative to verify the onboard bag allowance and receive a boarding pass.
related threads
New UA/*A TATL -LGT Economy fare - no free first bag, no changes/upgrades allowed
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Pre-announcement speculation thread (now closed) New "Budget Economy" fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ... {Archive}
#2836
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Out of curiosity, has anyone ever actually seen any statement from UA stating that the companions of Mileage Plus Premier members are entitled to bring a free regular carry-on when they're ticketed in Basic Economy?
That seems to be the understanding, but I see that some pax (UA credit cardholdrers) have been hassled about their baggage rights, and I'd like to have a written policy I can point to. Thanks.
That seems to be the understanding, but I see that some pax (UA credit cardholdrers) have been hassled about their baggage rights, and I'd like to have a written policy I can point to. Thanks.
#2837
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You're not allowed a full-sized carry-on bag unless you're a MileagePlus Premier member or companion traveling on the same reservation, the primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card or a Star Alliance™ Gold member. Everyone else who brings a full-sized carry-on bag to the gate will be required to check their bag and pay the applicable checked bag fee plus a $25 gate handling charge.
#2838
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 575
I have a family member (Silver) who checked in at 1st flight's T-24 but couldn't yet select E+ for the 2nd flight and subsequently forgot about the 2nd flight's T-24 due to time difference. At 2nd flight's T-22, there were no more E+ when there were plenty just a couple of hours prior! The new practice of UA letting non-BE non-Premier select E+ (making blue seats white) caused grief among Silver members!
#2839
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This was domestic to Canada, and we have had plenty of D-to-I and D-to-Guam and could never obtain E+ as Silver until that particular segment's T-24. You can check in for all segments but not obtain E+, yet.
#2841
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#2843
Join Date: Sep 2017
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It's in the policy:
Q: Which qualifying MileagePlus credit cards allow the cardmember to bring a full-sized carry-on bag on board?
A: If you are a primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card at the time of check-in and you provided your MileagePlus number when purchasing a Basic Economy ticket, you and travel companions on the same reservation will maintain your boarding priority and be allowed to bring a full-sized carry-on bag on board if space permits. Qualifying cards are: MileagePlus Explorer Card, MileagePlus Explorer Business Card, MileagePlus Club Card, MileagePlus Club Business Card, Presidential PlusSM Card, Presidential Plus Business Card, MileagePlus Awards Card, Ixe United Universe Card, and Ixe United Card.
That's the 'written policy' I had the gate agents read on my iPad but it didn't convince them.
A: If you are a primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card at the time of check-in and you provided your MileagePlus number when purchasing a Basic Economy ticket, you and travel companions on the same reservation will maintain your boarding priority and be allowed to bring a full-sized carry-on bag on board if space permits. Qualifying cards are: MileagePlus Explorer Card, MileagePlus Explorer Business Card, MileagePlus Club Card, MileagePlus Club Business Card, Presidential PlusSM Card, Presidential Plus Business Card, MileagePlus Awards Card, Ixe United Universe Card, and Ixe United Card.
Last edited by zartemis; Sep 19, 2017 at 7:18 pm
#2844
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Location: New England
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That "if space permits" part probably gives GAs a little leeway to make things up as they go...
#2845
Join Date: Sep 2017
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In our case, they wanted us to pay to check the carry-ons in advance of loading. If they said there was no room and required us to check it for free we would have done so (and then wondered how they choose; but I would have given in immediately). The flight was close to full, but not full. We were in E+ and there were empty seats near us. We boarded early (group 2) so do not know if some people had their carry-ons involuntarily checked for space reasons.
Also, they did not rely on the 'space permits' clause to deny me, they just said it didn't apply to me and could not explain why other than repeating: "basic economy doesn't get a carry-on, there are no exceptions". And even when I'd point out my boarding group 2, they'd shrug and say "you get to keep your boarding priority but you still don't get a carry-on".
ESL issue? Maybe: in the other paragraph posted by jsloan (I pointed out that paragraph specifically to them and watched them both read it) they used the initial phrase from it: "you're not allowed a full-sized carry-on bag" to try to prove to me I was wrong, stopping at 'unless'. I said "i'm covered under the 'unless' conditions" and they'd then switch to repeating their 'no exceptions' claim as if somehow 'unless' wasn't a means of listing exceptions.
Last edited by zartemis; Sep 19, 2017 at 9:25 pm
#2846
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It's in the policy:
You're missing my point. Had I not bought a BE fare, and had paid the extra $40 per person, I also would not have gotten an upgrade because all the FC seats would have been allocated to other pax (there were actually only 5 upgrades out of 20 FC seats, so you weren't going to get one of those seats without some sort of upgrade instrument, even as a 1K). So all I've lost by saving the money is extra legroom and a 5-minute deplaning delay. As I said, those benefits are not worth $120 for 3 pax, at least to me.
#2847
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Yes. The "space available" clause is there to limit the complaints when they're forced to gate check a bag due to the bins being full or when there's a leg on a regional jet. There would be no charge for that. These particular gate agents had clearly gone rogue; this wasn't a case of falling into a loophole in UA's policy.
#2848
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It's bad luck you didn't, but I don't know how BE would have changed that. BE pax don't get seat assignments until the gate, I thought?
#2849
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It's been mentioned elsewhere that UA has turned blue seats white for non-BE non-Premier customers when they check in in order to prevent BE customers from being "forced" to take E+ seats. Non-Premiers taking E+ seats at T-24 or OLCI is hurting Silvers.
#2850
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this is im reference to the post about a flight to Canada, though, right. Canada flights still don't offer BE, so doubt this is happening on Canada flights.