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United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ... **NEW** Cancellable for a fee

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If purchased on united.com you will have to accept a warning about choosing Basic Economy and there will be orange "Basic Economy" highlights everywhere during the booking process.

Link to UA's description of how these fares will work: Basic Economy.

Here are the key facts:
  • No free seat assignments until check-in. Seats will be assigned by the system. Flyers (including elite) have the option to purchase regular economy and preferred economy (white seats with black triangle on seat map) seats after ticket purchase. E+ seats are not available for purchase until check-in. If you dont purchase an advance seat assignment, your seat will be automatically assigned to you prior to boarding, and you won't be able to change your seat once it's been assigned.
  • No guarantee of adjacent seats with companions
  • No voluntary ticket changes after 24 hour purchase period (1K's have successfully used Same Day Standby and received a confirmed seat without penalty)
  • Carry on limited to one personal item unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
  • Customers ineligible for carry-on who bring one to the gate will be charged a $25 convenience fee to gate-check in addition to standard baggage fees (source: @united twitter)
  • Customers are not eligible for premium cabin upgrades either via CPU, mileage upgrade award or PlusPoints
  • Customers will board in the last boarding group (currently Group 5) unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
  • Companions on same PNR will have same boarding group and carry-on if one on the PNR has a waiver
  • No combinability with regular economy fares or partner carriers. Interline travel is not permitted.
  • Normal PQPs / RDMs based on fare and elite multipliers
  • No PQFs
  • Flight(s) do count towards the 4 flight minimum for UA-operated
  • Lifetime mileage
  • Basic Economy tickets will use booking code 'N'
  • Online check-in only with paid checked bag, otherwise need to see a United representative to verify the onboard bag allowance and receive a boarding pass
  • Canceling a basic economy ticket will receive a flight credit for the price of the ticket, minus a fee. For domestic flights, the fee is $49.50 for one-way tickets and $99 for roundtrip tickets. For international flights, the fee is $99.50 for one-way tickets and $199 for roundtrip tickets
In air, passengers will receive the same standard economy inflight amenities including United Economy dining options, inflight entertainment, United Wi-Fi (availability depending on the flight)

To avoid domestic BE fares ITA Matrix ~bc=N

Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag

NO UNUSED TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE
OF A BASIC ECONOMY TICKET.
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NO RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE
OF A BASIC ECONOMY TICKET.

How is this different from buying up BE to regular economy?

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New UA/*A TATL -LGT Economy fare - no free first bag, no changes/upgrades allowed

Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ

Pre-announcement speculation thread (now closed) New "Budget Economy" fares

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Old Sep 20, 22, 7:18 am
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If I am a Premier Silver and book a CLT - IAD Basic Economy ticket on United for me and 3 other traveling companions can we all get the free checked bags and carry on bag allowance or will it only apply to me the silver member and not the rest of my party?

Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
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There are two types of Basic Economy -- Domestic and International to Europe. They are handled a bit differently.

Assuming you are asking about a domestic BE

No selectable E+ (or any advance seat selection) and no upgrades. Yes to the 2 checked bags and carryon bag and premier boarding.
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Old Oct 5, 22, 4:37 am
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I have an upcoming BE itinerary with TATL flights and domestic flights. I'm given to understand that I'm allowed a carry-on and a personal item on the TATL legs, would that also be the case for the domestic flights on the same itinerary?
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Old Oct 5, 22, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by N107UA View Post
I have an upcoming BE itinerary with TATL flights and domestic flights. I'm given to understand that I'm allowed a carry-on and a personal item on the TATL legs, would that also be the case for the domestic flights on the same itinerary?
Yes. You're on an international basic economy fare, so the restrictions of international basic economy will apply (no checked bag included, no changes). You get the carry on and personal item on all flights regardless of domestic or international segments.
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Old Oct 11, 22, 12:29 pm
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Yikes - knew we would see this eventually, especially since DL, AA and to some extent, AC had already been doing this on transborder routes, but hadnt yet. Looking up fares ex-YYZ and found dreaded BE fares. Seems to be limited routes though, at least for now. Noticed it first when searching YYZ-SJC, but no BE fares on YYZ-SFO. Looking into it more it does seem to be just on limited routes for now. In addition to SJC, Found BE on YYZ-ORD/EWR and YVR-DEN/ORD, but not on YYZ-IAD/DEN or YVR-SFO. Just did a sample of places.

interesting its not necessarily aligning with ACs recent expansion of basic, which, for example, started being offered on YYZ-SFO recently (a few weeks ago searches never showed basic fares but now do). My impression is AC typically offered transborder basic mostly to sun destinations but not elsewhere. So lots more basic in the TB market.
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Old Oct 11, 22, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by emcampbe View Post
Yikes - knew we would see this eventually, especially since DL, AA and to some extent, AC had already been doing this on transborder routes, but hadnt yet.
So I guess it's now 'Backpack Economy'?
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Old Oct 16, 22, 12:27 am
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Saw some conflicting info from this thread. A post in April here mentioned that it was possible to "buy economy" from basic economy and then cancel to get a full refund of the fare.

Is this still the case? I have a BE one way ticket for $250 that costs $50 to buy to economy. If I then cancel that, will I get $300 back or still my original $250? I guess if it is only $250 refunded using that method, it's the same as just cancelling and eating the $49.59 one way charge.
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Old Oct 16, 22, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by capecod0321 View Post
Saw some conflicting info from this thread. A post in April here mentioned that it was possible to "buy economy" from basic economy and then cancel to get a full refund of the fare. ..
First it is not a refund, it is a future flight credit (FFC)

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I have a BE one way ticket for $250 that costs $50 to buy to economy. If I then cancel that, will I get $300 back or still my original $250? I guess if it is only $250 refunded using that method, it's the same as just cancelling and eating the $49.59 one way charge.
The fee is a fee and will not be a part of the FFC. In your example, the FFC will be for $250. Just as if you paid the change fee but you have a true economy ticket -- without BE restrictions.
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Old Oct 16, 22, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
First it is not a refund, it is a future flight credit (FFC)

The fee is a fee and will not be a part of the FFC. In your example, the FFC will be for $250. Just as if you paid the change fee but you have a true economy ticket -- without BE restrictions.
Thanks, that clears it up. No loophole possible by buying to economy.
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