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If purchased on united.com you will see a warning like:


4. MileagePlus members will earn full Premier qualifying dollars, 50% Premier qualifying miles and 0.5 Premier qualifying segments for each flight, as well as lifetime miles and toward the four-segment minimum.

Link to UA's description of how these fares will work: Basic Economy.

Here are the key facts:
  • No seat assignments until check-in. Seats will be assigned by the system and cannot be changed.
    *NEW* When purchasing a Basic Economy ticket, you will not receive a complimentary seat assignment but may be able to purchase advance seat assignments during booking and up until check-in opens. If you donít purchase an advance seat assignment, your seat will be automatically assigned to you prior to boarding, and you won't be able to change your seat once it's been assigned.
  • No guarantee of adjacent seats with companions
  • No voluntary ticket changes after 24 hour purchase period
  • Carry on limited to one personal item unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
  • Customers ineligible for carry-on who bring one to the gate will be charged a $25 convenience fee to gate-check in addition to standard baggage fees (source: @united twitter)
  • Customers will not be eligible for Economy Plus or premium cabin upgrades. This includes all forms of upgrades (CPU,supported or purchased). Likewise for E+ access (elite or purchased).
  • Customers will board in the last boarding group (currently Group 5) unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
  • Companions on same PNR will have same boarding group and carryon if one on the PNR has a waiver
  • No combinability with regular economy fares or partner carriers. Interline travel is not permitted.
  • Tickets will earn RDMs (based on fare and status), PQMs (50% of distance), PQSs (0.5), PQDs, in addition it will count for minimum 4 segment and lifetime miles (New as of Dec 2018)
  • Basic Economy tickets will use booking code 'N'
  • Online check-in only with paid checked bag, otherwise need to see a United representative to verify the onboard bag allowance and receive a boarding pass.
In air, passengers will receive the same standard economy inflight amenities including United Economy dining options, inflight entertainment, United Wi-Fi (availability depending on the flight)

To aviod domestic BE fares
ITA Matrix ~bc=N

Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
Originally Posted by jsloan View Post
NO UNUSED TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE
OF A BASIC ECONOMY TICKET.
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NO RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE
OF A BASIC ECONOMY TICKET.
related threads
New UA/*A TATL -LGT Economy fare - no free first bag, no changes/upgrades allowed

Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ

Pre-announcement speculation thread (now closed) New "Budget Economy" fares

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Old Apr 24, 18, 11:35 am
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Agree with you completely. I am lucky that I reached the 1 million milestone but with no chance to ever get to 2 million, I don't care at this point.
I am at 1.1 million and not chasing 2, but to me its just wrong. It's a small hill to die on, but it is what it is.
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Old Apr 24, 18, 12:08 pm
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Any chance UA will do away with the overhead bag limitation/fee, as DL still hasn't instituted a fee or limitation on their respective BE fares for that?
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Old Apr 24, 18, 12:15 pm
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Any chance UA will do away with the overhead bag limitation/fee, as DL still hasn't instituted a fee or limitation on their respective BE fares for that?
It's 50/50 currently -- AA followed UA's lead and AS's new announcement follows DL's.

My guess is UA will take a hybrid approach -- they may allow you to purchase Premier Access atop a BE fare, which would implicitly include the carry-on bag.

Sadly, I think BE is here to stay.

It could be worse, though. Yesterday I found a $1750 VIE-HKG LH group P fare -- business class, with no changes except in case of death of a family member. "Basic Business," I guess. If that works out for LH group, be prepared to keep an eye on UA's business class fare rules....
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Old Apr 24, 18, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan View Post
It could be worse, though. Yesterday I found a $1750 VIE-HKG LH group P fare -- business class, with no changes except in case of death of a family member. "Basic Business," I guess. If that works out for LH group, be prepared to keep an eye on UA's business class fare rules....
The worst thing about LH P (which many call the be version of J) is that it also doesn't accrue any miles in many *A programs. I could definitely see UA and others copying that.
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Old Apr 24, 18, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by anc-ord772 View Post
I am at 1.1 million and not chasing 2, but to me its just wrong. It's a small hill to die on, but it is what it is.
As I said before I am with you. But I am more ticked off about the fact that BE does not count towards PQS. We fly mostly *A out of Japan and so
we need to make every UA flight count. I cannot, however, justify to pay up to $ 100.00 more so that it books into a segment qualifying fare.
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Old Apr 25, 18, 8:37 pm
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BE just popped up between IAD and BDL (after months of $47 one way fares). BE is still $47, with a $25 differential. Any chance of BE disappearing again, or should I be kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on buying a couple weeks ago?
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Old Apr 25, 18, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by wavid View Post
BE just popped up between IAD and BDL (after months of $47 one way fares). BE is still $47, with a $25 differential. Any chance of BE disappearing again, or should I be kicking myself for not pulling the trigger on buying a couple weeks ago?
On some routes it comes and goes.. it could disappear again or it could not. Hard to say.
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Old May 12, 18, 7:45 am
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You are not checked in yet



Why didn't I get a boarding pass?
Travelers who purchase Basic Economy and have indicated that they're not bringing a checked bag need to see a United representative to complete their check-in. Once you arrive at the airport, visit an airport kiosk or check-in counter to verify your onboard bag allowance and receive a boarding pass. You may complete check-in online if you indicate that you'll have a checked bag.


AAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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Old May 12, 18, 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by boboqui View Post
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You are not checked in yet



Why didn't I get a boarding pass?
Travelers who purchase Basic Economy and have indicated that they're not bringing a checked bag need to see a United representative to complete their check-in. Once you arrive at the airport, visit an airport kiosk or check-in counter to verify your onboard bag allowance and receive a boarding pass. You may complete check-in online if you indicate that you'll have a checked bag.


AAAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Not a problem. Just pretend you are checking baggage, print your boarding pass and everything is fine. Do it all the time.
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Old May 12, 18, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Exleftseat View Post
Not a problem. Just pretend you are checking baggage, print your boarding pass and everything is fine. Do it all the time.
not a problem if your elite. If you have to pay for a checked bag, and donít have one, Iíd think selecting that you are checking a bag, then paying for it is actually more of a problem.

of course, even for non elites itís not really a problem - just show up at the counter, yes, perhaps a few minutes earlier then you might otherwise, take the minute or so to deal with the agent, and go on your way. If this is the worst treatment you get from buying a BE fare, Iíd say youíre doing good. Of course, if this check didnít take place, the posts would be about UA charging an extra $25 to check a rollerboard at the gate for a BE pax.
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Old May 13, 18, 3:00 pm
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Has anyone else seen a $500 difference between the BE price and the regular economy price? Is this likely a glitch that will get corrected eventually? Frontier's price is a few dollars above the basic economy price.

This flight is on 6/2.






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Old May 13, 18, 3:02 pm
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Has anyone else seen a $500 difference between the BE price and the regular economy price? Is this likely a glitch that will get corrected eventually? Frontier's price is a few dollars above the basic economy price.

This flight is on 6/2.






That's the biggest delta I've seen.

It's not an error though. It's (IMO) a flawed business strategy, but it's what UA intended.
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Old May 13, 18, 4:19 pm
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The one-way fare is $66 vs $575. Sample round-trip using same departure and a return 1 week later is $131 vs $308. I guess UA expects only a few (or no) one-way types that are dumb enough to pay $575.
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Old May 13, 18, 5:34 pm
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What's weird to my eye is that all the fare classes are wide open. Does UA really not have any one-way (non-BE) IAH-PHL fares with > 14 days advanced purchase filed that book into anything below the M bucket?

AA is offering $253 connecting for $575 nonstop.

Frontier's $70 option lands at 4:00am which is a bit rough.
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Old May 13, 18, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by emcampbe View Post


not a problem if your elite. If you have to pay for a checked bag, and donít have one, Iíd think selecting that you are checking a bag, then paying for it is actually more of a problem.

of course, even for non elites itís not really a problem - just show up at the counter, yes, perhaps a few minutes earlier then you might otherwise, take the minute or so to deal with the agent, and go on your way. If this is the worst treatment you get from buying a BE fare, Iíd say youíre doing good. Of course, if this check didnít take place, the posts would be about UA charging an extra $25 to check a rollerboard at the gate for a BE pax.
My fault. I didn't know that it works differently for non elites.
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