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Global Services Qualifying Discussion- 2017
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Follow the form through and fill out as much as you can. There are a few required fields and a few optional fields. The more data you can provide, the better off we will be for building a prediction model.
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Originally Posted by Global Services Data 2017
To help standardize inputs ( and based on reports only UA operated flights are considered for GS), please make reference to
UA PQDs (only PQDs earned in UA operated flights). It takes a little work using the data in Account Summary Details to remove any non-UA operated PQDs.
Likewise UA PQMs, UA BIS and UA CPM.
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BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Thread from 2016 - Global Services Qualifications 2016
2017 GS Qualifying Discussion
Nov 11, 2016, 4:39 pm
#151
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Are you sure it's not calculated as PQD on UA metal divided by BIS miles on UA metal? I know no one really knows but this seems to make sense to me. I have a lot of PQD that I accumulated buying 016 tickets but flying partners and codeshares. I think I'm probably borderline GS this year because of all the Europe-Asia and Intra-Asia travel I had this year where UA just doesn't fly.
Nov 11, 2016, 4:43 pm
#152
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Are you sure it's not calculated as PQD on UA metal divided by BIS miles on UA metal? I know no one really knows but this seems to make sense to me. I have a lot of PQD that I accumulated buying 016 tickets but flying partners and codeshares. I think I'm probably borderline GS this year because of all the Europe-Asia and Intra-Asia travel I had this year where UA just doesn't fly.
CPM in general is calculated by dividing spend by distance flown.
Nov 11, 2016, 7:55 pm
#153
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Nov 11, 2016, 7:57 pm
#154
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With an absolute emphasis on United metal. These are the only PQD that count.
Nov 12, 2016, 8:44 am
#156
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Nov 12, 2016, 9:48 am
#157
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RDM earnings are no different for JV flights -- earnings based on ticket stock and flight operator. JV flights make no difference to the passenger/benefits and apparently no difference for GS metrics.
Nov 12, 2016, 9:53 am
#158
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Nov 12, 2016, 1:14 pm
#159
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Dilemma
I had earlier posted on this thread that I will end up this year with around $55k PQD ($50k on UA) and 300k PQM. Based on some last minute changes in my travel patterns, I am now sitting at $64k PQD ($55k on UA) and close to 330k PQM.
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Nov 12, 2016, 1:20 pm
#160
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I had earlier posted on this thread that I will end up this year with around $55k PQD ($50k on UA) and 300k PQM. Based on some last minute changes in my travel patterns, I am now sitting at $64k PQD ($55k on UA) and close to 330k PQM.
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Nov 12, 2016, 1:49 pm
#161
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Nov 12, 2016, 2:30 pm
#162
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I had earlier posted on this thread that I will end up this year with around $55k PQD ($50k on UA) and 300k PQM. Based on some last minute changes in my travel patterns, I am now sitting at $64k PQD ($55k on UA) and close to 330k PQM.
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Nobody knows for sure but I think there are three factors.
1) Your CPM has to be above a certain number (e.g. 25 cents per mile)
2) Assuming #1, your PQD needs to be above some number which varies year to year. It appeared to be in the $50K range last year.
3) People with a very high cpm will make it with lower PQD numbers.
This is all a complete guess based on when I have and have not made it.
Nov 12, 2016, 7:21 pm
#163
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I had earlier posted on this thread that I will end up this year with around $55k PQD ($50k on UA) and 300k PQM. Based on some last minute changes in my travel patterns, I am now sitting at $64k PQD ($55k on UA) and close to 330k PQM.
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Last edited by tryintogohome; Nov 12, 2016 at 7:34 pm
Nov 12, 2016, 8:05 pm
#164
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tryintogohome, Are you a GS already? based on your comment of 10% down this year, you should have comfortably made GS last year with your PQD/PQM combination.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Nov 12, 2016 at 8:29 pm Reason: repaired quote
Nov 12, 2016, 8:46 pm
#165
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I had earlier posted on this thread that I will end up this year with around $55k PQD ($50k on UA) and 300k PQM. Based on some last minute changes in my travel patterns, I am now sitting at $64k PQD ($55k on UA) and close to 330k PQM.
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?
Now here is my dilemma:
I am currently sitting at $.31 CPM, which I know is on the lower side. But I am done with most of my international travel (70% was in paid business class) and have a few domestic trips left that I could take on UA which would get me another $2k in UA PQD but will drop my CPM to under $.30.
So, is PQD more important or trying to keep my CPM above $.30 and try and fly WN for my domestic flight as it is more convenient for my travel patterns for remaining flight ?
Thoughts ?