Feb 21, 2017, 2:36 pm
Last edit by: cesco.g
Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
United 77x Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris Seats
Aug 14, 2018, 9:18 pm
#721
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I've significantly downgraded my UA award and paid business travel after hitting UA 1MM due to a noncompetitive old style UA business seating from Hong Kong and excellent alternatives like EVA HKG - TPE - JFK/ORD.
When should I expect that I can move some of my spend back to United Airlines? I primarily fly HKG - ORD / NYC so I am guess it is dependent on
When should I expect that I can move some of my spend back to United Airlines? I primarily fly HKG - ORD / NYC so I am guess it is dependent on
- when JFK - HKG switches to a 772 with Polaris or when ORD - HKG switches to a 772 with Polaris?
- and which could I expect first? Chicago or New York?
Aug 14, 2018, 9:26 pm
#722
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we believe OP meant EWR (see post title). Anyways AFAIK no way to know. I'd expect a phase-in on both of the routes.
Aug 14, 2018, 9:28 pm
#723
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yeah typo which I wish I could correct. I meant EWR. apologies.
I was thinking that since UA was concentrating the 77W in SFO and EWR first that from an internal cabin product consistency perspective....EWR would be before ORD. Complete WAG speculation.
I was thinking that since UA was concentrating the 77W in SFO and EWR first that from an internal cabin product consistency perspective....EWR would be before ORD. Complete WAG speculation.
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Aug 14, 2018, 9:49 pm
#724
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There are currently (only) 5 772s retrofitted with Polaris. However once the summer season is over expect to see more mod lines open and (as the retrofit process gets bedded in) shorter retrofit times. I would expect that all the pmUA 772s in the 2-4-2 config (33 total) will be done well before this time next year and a some of the pmCO ships (22 total) done too.
Also, with the merging of the (sUA and sCO) flight attendant rosters starting October there will be less demarcation of which aircraft fly from where. So ORD may not get Polaris 772s on the routes you want short term, but may get pmCO aircraft (2-2-2 in J) rather than pmUA (2-4-2) in the interim. All in all I suspect for ORD-HKG you’ll see a Polaris 772 (with Premium Economy too) in the medium term rather than later.
Also, the new delivery 787-10s (with Polaris) will be based at EWR, which will likely serve high capacity marque transatlantic routes.
Also, with the merging of the (sUA and sCO) flight attendant rosters starting October there will be less demarcation of which aircraft fly from where. So ORD may not get Polaris 772s on the routes you want short term, but may get pmCO aircraft (2-2-2 in J) rather than pmUA (2-4-2) in the interim. All in all I suspect for ORD-HKG you’ll see a Polaris 772 (with Premium Economy too) in the medium term rather than later.
Also, the new delivery 787-10s (with Polaris) will be based at EWR, which will likely serve high capacity marque transatlantic routes.
Aug 14, 2018, 10:01 pm
#725
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I look forward to taking Polaris then next year on the Hong Kong routes.
Aug 15, 2018, 2:36 am
#726
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You could do ORD/EWR-SFO-HKG to get Polaris seat on the SFO-HKG flight.
Aug 15, 2018, 5:52 am
#727
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Given the sCO 772s are scheduled to be retrofitted later, I would surmise that ORD-HKG gets the seats first.
Aug 15, 2018, 2:14 pm
#728
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Also, with the merging of the (sUA and sCO) flight attendant rosters starting October there will be less demarcation of which aircraft fly from where. So ORD may not get Polaris 772s on the routes you want short term, but may get pmCO aircraft (2-2-2 in J) rather than pmUA (2-4-2) in the interim. All in all I suspect for ORD-HKG you’ll see a Polaris 772 (with Premium Economy too) in the medium term rather than later.
Aug 15, 2018, 2:40 pm
#729
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I was under the impression that once the new contract goes live in October there will be no sCO and sUA, just UA FAs.
Aug 15, 2018, 3:54 pm
#730
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Correct and with flights where language speakers are required ie EWR-HKG you might see a mix based pairing speakers HKG based non speakers EWR based. This will also change from month to month. One month it might be mixed base pairing EWR, HKG and the next it could be all EWR or all HKG.
Aug 15, 2018, 7:46 pm
#731
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Yes, but currently many planes that can only be crewed by one side, e.g. CO772 vs UA772/772HD and newest 789s are sUA vs older 789s and all 788s being sCO. Also, HKG and NRT crews still need to somehow operate from their bases and obviously can't operate domestic. So when the walls come down between the two divisions, equipment changes not possible before will become possible.
Aug 16, 2018, 1:01 am
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Aug 16, 2018, 1:18 am
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Sep 3, 2018, 8:08 pm
#734
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United Polaris Business Class - On which flights
I'm flying UA (flight 901) SFO to LHR. Does anyone know if this has the new Polaris product (2-2-2) config?
Cheers,
Iain.
Cheers,
Iain.
Sep 3, 2018, 8:14 pm
#735
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Depends on the date and a swap is always possible, but yes, 901 is currently scheduled as a 777-300 w/true Polaris. And technically, it's a 1-2-1 config.