Last edit by: cesco.g
Current 77W Routes:
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
SFO/HKG (UA 862/869) Started 25MAR17
EWR/TLV (UA 90/91) Started 5MAY17
SFO/NRT (UA 837/838) Started 14JUN17
SFO/TPE (UA 871/872) Started 1AUG17
SFO/FRA (UA 58/59) Started 5OCT17
EWR/NRT (UA 79/78) Started 28OCT17
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Resumes seasonal service 27OCT18 - 29MAR19 (non-seasonal 3x weekly service operated by 772)
SFO/LHR (UA 901/949) Started 23APR18, ends 26OCT18, resumes 30MAR19
SFO/TLV (UA 954/955) Started 23MAY18
EWR/BOM (UA 48/49) Started 27OCT18
EWR/HKG (UA 179/180) Started 30MAR19
Current Non-77W routes
772 Retrofit:
EWR/BRU (UA 999/998) Started 30MAR19
EWR/CDG (UA 57/56) Started 30MAR19
IAD/BRU (UA 950/951) Started 30MAR19
IAD/CDG (UA 915/914) Starts 29APR19
IAD/TLV (UA 72/73) Starts 22MAY19, 3x weekly
SFO/PEK (UA 888/889) Started 30MAR19
SFO/FRA (UA 926/927) Started 30MAR19
SFO/CDG (UA 990/984) Starts 29APR19
SFO/ICN (UA 805/806) Started 1APR19, 4x weekly
SFO/AKL (UA 916/917) Started off-season service 30MAR19, 3x weekly
Past routes:
EWR/FRA (UA 960/961) 24MAR18 - 31JUL18 (now operated by 78J)
SFO/EWR (various), currently operated by 752, 78J, 77G
United 77x Future/Changed Routes w/ Polaris Seats
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I'm genuinely curious as to why. You prefer the smaller, more claustrophobic cabin of the A350? Or it could be the prospect of 10 across in Y on the 77W, which I admit is a valid concern!
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I hope IAD gets A350's, old 777s and 767s. Leave the 77W and 787 and 10 across in Y for other hubs.
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However J is going to be a squeeze if they just blindly use the 777 product.
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Actually this is probably incorrect. Seat manufacturers typically design J seats for certain widebody models. For example, a J product for a 787 will be designed to have the same width as the A330. Hence, the aisle on the 787 might seem a little wider. The same goes for the A350/777. Just look at what DL will be installing when they refit the 777s, the exact same product as their new A350s. Its quite efficient for manufacturers to have a product for the 787/A330 and A350/777. The 767 is outmoded, so seat selection is difficult if an airline chooses for all aisle access. UA's 767 Polaris product will be totally unique in this regard. In fact, Polaris on the 767 might very well be the best J product on the 767.
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Its been all but confirmed EWR-DEL/BOM will become 77W routes. The 77W will have better performance on these routes than the GE 772s. The 77W is a much better aircraft given it can carry a hundred more pax than the 772 while only burning slightly more fuel than the 772. Also helps the 77W has more range than the 772, giving it an edge on these ULH routes.
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Actually this is probably incorrect. Seat manufacturers typically design J seats for certain widebody models. For example, a J product for a 787 will be designed to have the same width as the A330. Hence, the aisle on the 787 might seem a little wider. The same goes for the A350/777. Just look at what DL will be installing when they refit the 777s, the exact same product as their new A350s. Its quite efficient for manufacturers to have a product for the 787/A330 and A350/777. The 767 is outmoded, so seat selection is difficult if an airline chooses for all aisle access. UA's 767 Polaris product will be totally unique in this regard. In fact, Polaris on the 767 might very well be the best J product on the 767.
CX: Not the same size
SQ: Not the same size
QR: Not the same size
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Thats because they are using differently products on SQ/QR and CX slightly enhanced their seat on the A350.
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No doubt 777 Polaris will require a few nips and tucks to get the dimensions right for the A350, but I'm not sure how wide the 777 aisles will be in J... I would imagine that's the first place they'd look to 'buy back' some space.
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My guess is this is more of a function of corporate real estate. ORD T1 lounges are undergoing a phased renovation, and Polaris is part of the new brand standard for international gateways, so it makes sense to do the project now with the other upgrades.