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Updates to UA MP Multi-City Award Travel & Award Fee Changes (Post Oct 2016){Archive}

Updates to UA MP Multi-City Award Travel & Award Fee Changes (Post Oct 2016){Archive}

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United's Announcement and FAQ

Kacee's Interpretation

Main Impact Since October 6
  • Fee Changes such as platinum members are subject to various award fees
  • No more free stopover - replaced with Excursionist Perk
  • Agents no longer have the ability to find routings that do not show up on united.com
  • Manually constructing trips using multi-city search results in multiple award fares being charged
  • Changing any segment MIGHT require current availability for all existing Os&Ds in the PNR (as if a brand new booking is made) - YMMV
  • Singapore Airlines segments are priced separately (add-ons)

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This is an archive thread, the active thread is Award booking questions/ issues/ routing/ excursionist problems / help
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Old Dec 22, 17, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by kymiller View Post
Why can't I get the following itinerary to book?

SFO to AKL Feb 11
SYD to MEL Feb 20 (open jaw / excursionist perk)
MEL to SFO Feb 20

Thought this was within the rules but I get an error when I try to book the above using multi city...
Likely because there are no *A partners that fly between SYD and MEL according to the routing rules. Doing a dummy booking doesn't appear to be allowing me to transit New Zealand while on a SYD-MEL award.
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Old Dec 22, 17, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by pushmyredbutton View Post
Likely because there are no *A partners that fly between SYD and MEL according to the routing rules. Doing a dummy booking doesn't appear to be allowing me to transit New Zealand while on a SYD-MEL award.
I believe that Australia and New Zealand have a full open skies agreement, so Iím somewhat surprised that you canít find SYD-AKL-MEL on an award ticket. Having said that, considering that the OP was asking about a same-day transfer, I donít think SYD-AKL-MEL-LAX-SFO was the intended route. :-)

So, yes, I think the root of the problem is the lack of MileagePlus redemption partners in Australia. UA can sell you that itinerary for cash, because they can sell a seat on Qantas or Jetstar. But they canít sell that ticket with miles, because neither of those airlines are MileagePlus partners.
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Old Dec 22, 17, 11:56 am
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Yes I think the answer to this question is "can you find SYD-MEL one-way award on any date?" If the answer is no, you certainly aren't going to find it as a leg of a multi-city / excursionist perk.

The good news is that a cash fare on that route is $38.
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Old Dec 22, 17, 1:19 pm
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Thanks everybody is right there is no SYD to MEL award tickets available. I thought because they were selling cash tickets this would be available but clearly its not.
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Old Dec 26, 17, 8:51 am
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I have two options 3 options to choose from and am looking for some advice. Which route would you go with? We have never flown either LX or SAS

Option 1:
AUS-ORD-ZRH-FCO
- 7 hour layover in ORD (may leave to meet some buddies for lunch), 7 hour layover in ZRH (can go see the city)
- LX 777-300
- Allows us to hold out hope for LH First class
- Can change AUS - ORD to leave a 3 hour layover, but eliminates LH First class as an option
- Currently lands 7:15 PM but earlier flight may open up eliminating city visit of ZRH but landing at 2:15 PM
- ZRH - FCO is 1.5 hours

Option 2:
AUS-ORD-CPH- FCO
- 5 hour layover in ORD, 3 hour in CPH
- SAS A340-300
- Lands in FCO at 7:00 PM
- CPH - FCO is 2.5 hours

Option 3
AUS-ORD-ARN-FCO
- SAS A330-300
- 4 hour layover in ORD, 2.5 hours in ARN
- Lands in FCO is 6:10 PM
- ARN - FCO is 3:10 Hours

With the Polaris lounge the long layovers in ORD aren't an issue for us.
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Old Dec 26, 17, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by NDtraveler View Post
I have two options 3 options to choose from and am looking for some advice. Which route would you go with? We have never flown either LX or SAS
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With the Polaris lounge the long layovers in ORD aren't an issue for us.
The two things that matter for me most eastbound TATL are block time (> 8 hours, so I can sleep -- I hate the AAA-EWR-LHR-BBB itins), and a departure as late as possible in the day (I can never fall asleep on the 2pm departures, and my body wants to fall asleep just as I'm landing). I don't know what time you typically go to sleep, but with my cycle I'd choose the CPH flight with a 10pm departure. Eat dinner in the lounge and plan to be alseep by 10:30 at 10,000 feet, or eat on board and fall asleep around midnight Chicago time.

That said, the 8pm departures aren't so bad and all those flights have >8hr block time, so if the other connection times, airline, or opportunity to check out the city are appealing to you I think they're all reasonable.

The Polaris lounge closes at 9pm but that's just about perfect to head to your gate to board for the 10pm departure.
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Old Dec 26, 17, 7:51 pm
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Thanks Threeoh!

I agree that sleeps matter. This is why I nixed the EWR and DUB connections. I wasn't sure if seat quality, lounge access, or intra Europe flight quality pushed an option above another. With that in mind, is one option superior to the to other? I do think LH first class wins out over other options, especially with 3 hours in the FCT.

Thanks!
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Old Dec 26, 17, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by NDtraveler View Post
Thanks Threeoh!

I agree that sleeps matter. This is why I nixed the EWR and DUB connections. I wasn't sure if seat quality, lounge access, or intra Europe flight quality pushed an option above another. With that in mind, is one option superior to the to other? I do think LH first class wins out over other options, especially with 3 hours in the FCT.

Thanks!
I think your third option is strictly worse than the second one - similar timing but a longer trip in Eurobiz. I like the timing and routing of your LX option better, but SK has a nicer J product unless you luck into an LX throne (and even then it might be better). I would rule that a tossup based on your preference for convenience and less time in Eurobiz (actually I think SK is all Y), versus a superior overwater experience.
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Old Dec 30, 17, 12:17 pm
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Have archive the pre-2018 posts here, the active thread is https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...lems-help.html

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