Is United considering more hub closures?
Aug 4, 2016, 10:46 am
#136
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IAH is already down 180k seats this August compared to last. With oil at 40, expect further cuts.
Aug 4, 2016, 11:48 am
#137
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Again, for all of you who think UA could shut down IAD as a hub and just have everyone connect through EWR -- IT CAN'T HAPPEN. EWR doesn't have the physical capacity to accept more than a sliver of IAD's UA Pax. If UA dehubs IAD, it will only be with the expectation that UA intends to shrink greatly the total size of the airline.
The parking and gate shortage is why you see all these screwball 7pm-ish flights eastbound even though they land at like 1-2am in the morning.
Aug 4, 2016, 12:31 pm
#138
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Same thing goes for LAX and SFO. United is literally out of space to put planes between about 12pm-5pm at SFO. They're they couldn't add more flights there if they wanted to — much less anything the size of the current LAX operation, even in its diminished state.
The parking and gate shortage is why you see all these screwball 7pm-ish flights eastbound even though they land at like 1-2am in the morning.
The parking and gate shortage is why you see all these screwball 7pm-ish flights eastbound even though they land at like 1-2am in the morning.
Aug 4, 2016, 1:11 pm
#139
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I think the screwball flights leave more like 4:30 or 5 oclock. A 7 pm flight out of SFO would get you in at 2 or 3am and I like them too. Sleeping in my own bed beats a red-eye any day.
Aug 4, 2016, 1:19 pm
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Worth noting, SFO's is looking at an airside T2/T3 connector in its plan to redo Terminal 3. Maybe that means UA could get some T2 gates when AA moves to T1 in the next several years? Maybe? http://www.sfoconstruction.com/viewD...umber=10071.66
Aug 4, 2016, 2:43 pm
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I've noticed when comparing fares with DL to the south east, that UA is offering IAD routings more and more often. For a few years it was almost exclusively EWR, IIRC. I realize the above is anecdotal, but why would UA close a hub where there is little competition, room to grow, decent N/S connectivity, etc.?
As an aside, I have enjoyed the 1530ish SFO -> EWR flight. Good excuse to call it early in the day and get a nice lunch in SFO. That way, if the meal onboard is meh, can just put the foot rest up and enjoy some vino...
As an aside, I have enjoyed the 1530ish SFO -> EWR flight. Good excuse to call it early in the day and get a nice lunch in SFO. That way, if the meal onboard is meh, can just put the foot rest up and enjoy some vino...
Aug 4, 2016, 3:05 pm
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Worth noting, SFO's is looking at an airside T2/T3 connector in its plan to redo Terminal 3. Maybe that means UA could get some T2 gates when AA moves to T1 in the next several years? Maybe? http://www.sfoconstruction.com/viewD...umber=10071.66
