UA award with Hawaiian segment - questions
Jul 11, 2016, 10:03 am
#16
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1273 keeps running until mid-month. There's a 10-day break with no midday flight. Would not really call "little to no metal" as it never drops below 3x daily (I think).
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cxr Flight Orig Dest Dep Arr Equip Days Starts Ends ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- UA 1725 SFO OGG 09:20 11:48 738 MT S 01-Oct-16 04-Oct-16 UA 1725 SFO OGG 09:11 11:39 738 MTWRFSU 06-Oct-16 29-Oct-16 UA 1725 SFO OGG 09:10 11:35 753 MTWRFSU 30-Oct-16 05-Nov-16 UA 1273 SFO OGG 10:40 13:08 738 MT RFSU 15-Sep-16 02-Oct-16 UA 1273 SFO OGG 10:40 13:13 738 M 03-Oct-16 03-Oct-16 UA 1273 SFO OGG 10:40 13:08 738 TW 04-Oct-16 05-Oct-16 UA 1273 SFO OGG 12:50 15:18 738 MTWR SU 06-Oct-16 12-Oct-16 UA 1273 SFO OGG 12:50 15:18 738 MTW SU 15-Oct-16 19-Oct-16 UA 539 SFO OGG 14:05 16:33 738 MTWRFSU 07-Sep-16 05-Oct-16 UA 539 SFO OGG 13:10 15:46 738 MTWRFSU 30-Oct-16 05-Nov-16 UA 1749 SFO OGG 17:35 19:58 738 RF 07-Oct-16 21-Oct-16 UA 1749 SFO OGG 17:35 19:58 738 MTWRFS 22-Oct-16 29-Oct-16 UA 1749 SFO OGG 17:27 19:50 738 U 23-Oct-16 23-Oct-16 UA 364 SFO OGG 18:30 20:53 738 MTWRFS 07-Sep-16 05-Oct-16 UA 364 SFO OGG 18:40 21:03 738 U 11-Sep-16 02-Oct-16 UA 364 SFO OGG 18:50 21:13 738 MTWRFSU 06-Oct-16 29-Oct-16 UA 364 SFO OGG 19:00 21:36 738 MTWRFSU 30-Oct-16 05-Nov-16
Jul 11, 2016, 10:14 am
#17
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"Little/no metal" - yeah that's was probably not the best choice of words. I was originally looking from the East Coast, where Oct 1+, it showed just about every flight as requiring an interisland flight.
It was only during the last post that I dug deeper, and saw the specifics of the changes (eliminated all the late morning and early afternoon flights). If that's for a short period, it's just coincidental (and crappy timing!) that it happens when I'll be flying.
Jeff
It was only during the last post that I dug deeper, and saw the specifics of the changes (eliminated all the late morning and early afternoon flights). If that's for a short period, it's just coincidental (and crappy timing!) that it happens when I'll be flying.
Jeff
Jul 11, 2016, 10:23 am
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I think you're still confusing award flight availability results dispayed with what displays when you try buy a ticket.
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Jul 11, 2016, 10:32 am
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I can't remember if the change fee is $30 or $50 (it's been awhile since I've paid--Pualani status takes care of me--but I have inquired for my non status wife).
Jul 11, 2016, 10:59 am
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Yes, there should be, unless you find an agent willing to let you slide (rare these days), your original flight is full and they want to shift some of the loads to earlier flights with open seats (more common these days), or you have Pualani elite status and your number is in the ticket.
I can't remember if the change fee is $30 or $50 (it's been awhile since I've paid--Pualani status takes care of me--but I have inquired for my non status wife).
I can't remember if the change fee is $30 or $50 (it's been awhile since I've paid--Pualani status takes care of me--but I have inquired for my non status wife).
Jul 12, 2016, 4:27 am
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If I'm booking a brand new award ticket right now, then my flight choices would be limited to current award availability. I get that.
But once I have an award ticket issued, if the airline starts changing their schedule, which affects me, my belief is they should be able to use any flight at their resource to accommodate me.
If I bought a coach ticket, and now the only coach tickets available when I need to change my flight are 3x/4x as much, will I be told, "There are no flights available at the price you originally paid?"
Lastly, particularly with the interisland flights, the actual cost difference (again if paid) between the least expensive flights (what they are offering for award availability now) and the most expensive flights (what they are saying is unavailable) is only about $40. You'd think for just that little difference, they'd be a bit more accommodating.
Jeff
Jul 12, 2016, 9:12 am
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And once again, UA WILL open up space and accommodate you on their metal. They do it all the time when changes to schedule are made. However, they CANNOT open space on another carrier. No other carrier will allow another airline to just go in and force award space on their metal. Just not reasonable.
Jul 12, 2016, 4:23 pm
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If I'm booking a brand new award ticket right now, then my flight choices would be limited to current award availability. I get that.
But once I have an award ticket issued, if the airline starts changing their schedule, which affects me, my belief is they should be able to use any flight at their resource to accommodate me.
If I bought a coach ticket, and now the only coach tickets available when I need to change my flight are 3x/4x as much, will I be told, "There are no flights available at the price you originally paid?"
Lastly, particularly with the interisland flights, the actual cost difference (again if paid) between the least expensive flights (what they are offering for award availability now) and the most expensive flights (what they are saying is unavailable) is only about $40. You'd think for just that little difference, they'd be a bit more accommodating.
But once I have an award ticket issued, if the airline starts changing their schedule, which affects me, my belief is they should be able to use any flight at their resource to accommodate me.
If I bought a coach ticket, and now the only coach tickets available when I need to change my flight are 3x/4x as much, will I be told, "There are no flights available at the price you originally paid?"
Lastly, particularly with the interisland flights, the actual cost difference (again if paid) between the least expensive flights (what they are offering for award availability now) and the most expensive flights (what they are saying is unavailable) is only about $40. You'd think for just that little difference, they'd be a bit more accommodating.
Revenue availability is completely different than partner award availability.
You can have whatever partner award inventory is available now, or UA will generally open space on their own metal if you've been impacted by a schedule change. Or cancel for a full refund if it's a big change.
You can have whatever partner award inventory is available now, or UA will generally open space on their own metal if you've been impacted by a schedule change. Or cancel for a full refund if it's a big change.
Jul 13, 2016, 10:37 am
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You can call and call again but I don't think anyone at UA will (or even can) accommodate your request.
Jul 13, 2016, 11:07 am
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...Lastly, particularly with the interisland flights, the actual cost difference (again if paid) between the least expensive flights (what they are offering for award availability now) and the most expensive flights (what they are saying is unavailable) is only about $40. You'd think for just that little difference, they'd be a bit more accommodating.
Jeff
Jeff