SFO-AKL JV w/NZ, all year UA metal, 77W Nov18-Mar19, 772 Apr19-Oct19 (+newORD-AKL NZ)
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27 March 2018
Air New Zealand service between Auckland and Chicago
From Nov. 30, 2018, Air New Zealand will operate three times weekly, year-round service with its new configuration Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft. Flight time will be approximately 15 hours northbound and just over 16 hours southbound. Air New Zealand code share service will be offered on around 100 flights across the U.S. for convenient connections to Auckland via Chicago. United Airlines operates more flights from its hub at O'Hare International Airport than any other airline, with more than 500 flights to 147 airports across the United States. United expands service between San Francisco and Auckland Beginning in April 2019, United will extend service between its West Coast hub in San Francisco and Auckland to year-round with three-times-weekly service. In partnership with Air New Zealand, United's flight arriving in Auckland will offer passengers more than 20 connections across the region. The return trip utilizes United's extensive route network in San Francisco, which provides connections to the United States, Canada, and Latin America. United operates more than 290 daily flights from its hub at San Francisco International Airport to 79 airports across the U.S. and 26 international destinations. Tickets for the expanded San Francisco schedule will be available on united.com and airnewzealand.com later this year. United service between San Francisco and Auckland will operate with a Boeing 777-300ER between November and March and will operate with Boeing 777-200ER aircraft between April and October.
Originally Posted by jimyvr
UA will now fly the 77W on SFO AKL when it resumes operation 29OCT17 - 22MAR18 (from SFO). Overall frequency will be 6 weekly, and increasing to 7 weekly from mid-Dec. UA73/74 is canceled.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-01sep17/ Per New Zealand Herald quoting UA:
This change is in response to seasonal variations, which will also see United Airlines adding an additional three flights per week starting December 18, 2017 after resuming its daily Auckland to San Francisco services on October 31, 2017. This will increase services to a total of 10 United's flights per week during the high seasonal demand period. Passengers who have already purchased tickets during the suspended period are being contacted by the airline and offered flights on the Air New Zealand service instead. We apologise to customers for any inconvenience and advise that customers will not be out of pocket as a result of this shift in scheduling and will retain all frequent flyer benefits."
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Mar 1, 15, 6:15 pm
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SFO-AKL JV w/NZ, all year UA metal, 77W Nov18-Mar19, 772 Apr19-Oct19 (+newORD-AKL NZ)
Mar 1, 15, 6:57 pm
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Is there enough demand? I seem to recall that most of the NZ passengers on AKL-LAX were continuing on to London. Doubt that the Kiwis would want to fly UA instead of NZ if continuing to Europe.
Mar 1, 15, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by AndyPatterson
Is there enough demand?
Originally Posted by AndyPatterson
I seem to recall that most of the NZ passengers on AKL-LAX were continuing on to London.
Mar 1, 15, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by AndyPatterson
Is there enough demand? I seem to recall that most of the NZ passengers on AKL-LAX were continuing on to London. Doubt that the Kiwis would want to fly UA instead of NZ if continuing to Europe.
I would amend your final sentence to ask why anyone would want to fly UA over NZ, full stop.
Mar 1, 15, 7:43 pm
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That'd be a great addition to the network.
Mar 1, 15, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by SeaProf
Not a single American airline flies to AKL at the moment.
Mar 1, 15, 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by slippahs
With the exception of HA through HNL.
Mar 1, 15, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by AndyPatterson
Is there enough demand? I seem to recall that most of the NZ passengers on AKL-LAX were continuing on to London. Doubt that the Kiwis would want to fly UA instead of NZ if continuing to Europe.
Mar 1, 15, 8:40 pm
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It would be nice, but I would bet it's a close call whether there's enough traffic to support it. NZ is a country of just 4M people. Not that many are coming here from NZ, and not that many people are going there for tourism. It's also not a huge regional financial hub either.
Mar 1, 15, 8:45 pm
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Seems like a route well-suited to the 787, no?
Mar 1, 15, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by SeaProf
Good catch - I had completely forgotten about them.
Mar 1, 15, 8:48 pm
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787-8/9 could make a fair amount of logic on the route
I've done the NZ thing in Y on AKL->LAX a few times,
as an elite: UA Y+ > NZ Y any day of the week
I've done the NZ thing in Y on AKL->LAX a few times,
as an elite: UA Y+ > NZ Y any day of the week
Mar 1, 15, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl-MDW
United used to fly HNL - AKL with a DC 10 if I recall correctly.
Mar 1, 15, 9:04 pm
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Both UA & QF used to fly LAX-AKL. If they had made good money they would still be flying that route.
QF was MEL-AKL-LAX with a B747 then A330 IIRC until mid 90's.
If a new service would not a lot paying pax in the pointy end IMHO
AA would have a very limited NZ domestic partner:- Qantas lcc subsidiary Jetstar.
UA would be head to head with Air NZ, and then reply on Air NZ for domestic flight connection.
QF was MEL-AKL-LAX with a B747 then A330 IIRC until mid 90's.
If a new service would not a lot paying pax in the pointy end IMHO
AA would have a very limited NZ domestic partner:- Qantas lcc subsidiary Jetstar.
UA would be head to head with Air NZ, and then reply on Air NZ for domestic flight connection.
Mar 1, 15, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by TA
It would be nice, but I would bet it's a close call whether there's enough traffic to support it. NZ is a country of just 4M people. Not that many are coming here from NZ, and not that many people are going there for tourism. It's also not a huge regional financial hub either.
http://www.med.govt.nz/sectors-indus...l/iva-key-data
http://travel.trade.gov/view/m-2013-I-001/index.html
Not huge, but a growing market and right now, NZ has a monopoly on nonstop flights.
