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Old Jun 2, 2016, 9:06 am
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As there are multi-threads on inflight service and meals, will re-focus this thread on the hard product, the seats (and things related to the seat -- pillows, pads, blankets, ...)

United website - Explore: http://view.ceros.com/united/polaris-business-class/p/1
from UA's Facebook stream
Only customers traveling in United Polaris business class or United Polaris Global First on international flights and customers in Star Alliance international first or business class cabins on flights longer than six hours will have access to the United Polaris Lounge.
Official Polaris Lounge Access Rules are here: Polaris Lounge Access Rules

United Polaris Business and Polaris First pax may access the Polaris lounge at connecting airports and their final destination within 24 hours of departure or arrival.

*A international J and F pax may only access the Polaris lounge at the departure airport. For purposes of Polaris lounge access, Canada, the Caribbean, Central America, and Guam are excluded from the definition of "international."

Seat Chart.

Press release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300278706.html

NEW YORK, June 2, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- With the aspiration of making weary business travel a relic of the past, United Airlines today unveiled its all-new United Polaris business class, the airline's most significant product transformation in more than a decade, featuring a reimagined, sleep-enhancing, departure-to-landing experience for intercontinental travelers.

Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

"United Polaris will change the game in international business travel with an exceptional level of relaxation and comfort throughout our customers' journeys," said Oscar Munoz, president and CEO of United. "This completely reconceived experience exemplifies the new spirit of United and the innovation, excitement and operational momentum across our airline."

Path-Breaking Design

In setting out to create a transformative business class experience, United chose to outfit its widebody fleet with a custom-designed, exclusive-to-United seat, rather than select an option already in the marketplace. Designed in partnership with Acumen Design Associates and PriestmanGoode and manufactured by Zodiac Seats United Kingdom, each United Polaris seat will offer direct access to the aisle, 180-degree flat-bed recline and up to 6 foot 6 inches of bed space.

Crafted as individual, forward-facing, suite-like pods, each customer's personal suite will feature a "Do Not Disturb" sign, mood lighting, one-touch lumbar support, several storage areas, multiple surfaces for simultaneous working and dining, a 16-inch high-definition entertainment screen and, for seats in the center of the cabin, electronic privacy dividers. Complementing the new seats, United and PriestmanGoode have also conceived an all-new look for the United Polaris cabins.

In rethinking the international business class experience, United conducted more than 12,000 hours of research, and sleep emerged as the single most important priority for international business class travelers. United Polaris' path-breaking design and sleep-enhancing focus was inspired and informed by insights from hundreds of customers and employees, inflight product simulations and more than 100 product evaluations.

Sleep-Enticing Amenities

In addition to the sleep-enticing United Polaris personal suites, several other amenities were designed with our customers' sleep in mind.

In a first-of-its-kind partnership, United has worked with leading luxury specialty store Saks Fifth Avenue for custom-designed bedding. All designed to provide the best sleep in the sky, the new bedding collection will feature plush duvets, lightweight day-blankets and a large and small pillow for each United Polaris customer. In addition, mattress cushions will be available upon request.

Slippers will be available on all flights, and customized United Polaris pajamas will be available by request on flights longer than 12 hours**. Flyers will also be able to request a gel-cooled pillow. New amenity kits will feature ergonomically designed eye shades, calming lavender pillow mist and additional products from Soho House & Co.'s Cowshed Spa.

With the introduction of United Polaris, the airline intends to donate tens of thousands of pillows, blankets and other inflight service items to Fisher House Foundation, which United and its employees have long supported.

Elevated Dining Experience

Upon boarding their flight, each United Polaris customer will be welcomed with a pre-departure beverage of his or her choice and gourmet chocolate. While in the air, customers will enjoy regionally influenced in-flight menus updated seasonally, developed in partnership with The Trotter Project and its critically recognized chefs, including Bill Kim of acclaimed Chicago restaurants Urbanbelly, bellyQ and Belly Shack.

The airline will offer an upgraded wine experience, with the highest-quality options curated exclusively by United's Master Sommelier. Inflight service will also include made-to-order signature ice cream sundaes, a dessert cart with a variety of petit dessert options, chocolate truffles and wine flights. On daytime flights longer than eight hours and on all flights longer than 12 hours, hot mid-flight snacks such as lobster macaroni and cheese will be available.

Raising The Bar With United Polaris Business Class Lounges

United will also open an exclusive portfolio of United Polaris business class lounges in nine locations around the world – the only lounge of its kind offered by a U.S. airline to business class customers – that will feature custom-designed chairs, private daybeds, spa-like showers and chef-inspired hot meals served in a boutique restaurant setting so customers can refresh and dine before boarding their planes. Premium sparkling wines and spirits, refreshing snacks and bottled water will also be offered.

The first new United Polaris lounge will open at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Dec. 1, 2016. Lounges in eight other locations – Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong and London Heathrow – will follow in 2017.

United Polaris Introduction

United will begin to introduce United Polaris on Dec. 1, 2016, with the new inflight food and beverage experience, new custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue, new amenity kits and the new United Polaris lounge in Chicago. The United Polaris business class seat will first take flight in December on Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and subsequently on Boeing 787-10 and Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, as well as on Boeing 767-300 and 777-200 retrofits.

United Polaris will serve business class customers flying the U.S. airline industry's most global route network, reaching more than 330 destinations in more than 50 countries.

More information on the United Polaris business class can be found at united.com/Polaris.

[From [email][email protected] 11/15/2016]
Starting December 1, 2016, United Polaris Business Class service will replace United BusinessFirst service on international flights, and United Polaris Global First service will replace the current United Global First service.

Between 2017 to 2019 eight additional United Polaris lounges will open at EWR, HKG, IAD, IAH, LAX, LHR, NRT and SFO. We do not have the exact opening dates at this time. A scheduling announcement will be forthcoming.
** Flights with pajama service (for both directions)
SFO - ICN, PEK, PVG, HGH, XIV, TPE, AKL, HKG, CTU, SYD, TLV, SIN
EWR - NRT, PEK, DEL, BOM, HKG, PVG
ORD - NRT, PEK PVG, HKG
LAX - PVG, SYD, MEL, SIN
IAD - NRT, PEK
IAH - NRT, SYD
(from United Twitter feed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyjFHZLW...jpg&name=large

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Old Jan 17, 2020, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by mduell
and the new tray table making it more difficult to keep a laptop open during meal service.
How large is your laptop? Couldn't you sit it on the side ledge, a feature of the new seat?

Originally Posted by mduell
I don't see a clear winner between the new and old seats, and thus reason to care so much about which product you get. It's the same soft product delivered by the same staff either way.
The all-aisle access and aforementioned extra table space are two notable positives of the new seat over the old. There are still daily posts by folks stating "OMG I can't believe UA has 2-4-2 in biz!", "OMG facing the rear of the plane?!?!", and "I had to perform gymnastics to get over my seat neighbor!" and the like. Most of those should vanish, eventually.

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Old Jan 17, 2020, 7:05 pm
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No doubt, I’ve heard great things about BR but haven’t personally experienced them. OP originally stated one of their routes was SIN. Also, SQ flights from SFO go to HKG then on to SIN.
BR is a great way to get to SE Asian destinations that require a stop. Much better than UA. SQ also has 2 nonstop flights SFO-SIN each day, same as UA. In addition to this they have the SQ 1 flight that stops in HKG. Anyone flying to Asia on UA out of SFO is doing it either due to corporate contracts or because they really value their MP status/miles. All other Asian airline options out of SFO (including CA) are better.
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Old Jan 17, 2020, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by seanp7
The all-aisle access and aforementioned extra table space are two notable positives of the new seat over the old.
I think the table is fantastic. You can push it back, leaving it open, and still get out of the seat. There's also a nice big shelf to the side to put your laptop on. To me, the negative of the Polaris seat is the narrow width at the shoulders. And that they made it materially smaller on the 787s.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 12:36 am
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Originally Posted by mctaste
stop flying non-US airlines and you wont know what you are missing. easy!
i did stop last year, and flew Singapore Air and Qatar Air. Both Really great Service / Product and Food. Due to political issues, i went back to United for the latest round of travel. I missed Qatar airlines, Qsuite, People, and the WINE!
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 12:39 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
If you’re flying in J on a ‘fair number’ of trips to Asia why on earth would you even bother with UA. Take SQ to SIN. Yeah you have to stop from SFO, but imo it’s well worth it. For Europe options are less ideal but you still have LH or SQ to FRA via JFK (idk where you’re going in Europe).
Agree! I have been doing Qatar Air and Singapore recently.. United is just moving backwards!

Crawling over my seat mate is just not very nice! Difficult to let them get a restful and peaceful sleep.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by seanp7
Silly thread/title, merge it with Polaris In-flight Experiences.



That's precisely the point of the Polaris Lounge, which is decent. Did you eat there? Problem solved.
Well, solved if you want to arrive early, and not eat much during the 17 hours between SFO and SIN.... Qatar food on demand is much better quality, preparation and service. And normally 60-75% of the price on United...
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320
If you’re flying in J on a ‘fair number’ of trips to Asia why on earth would you even bother with UA.
$1035 for an economy R/T ticket on a direct flight EWR-PEK upgraded both ways with PlusPoints to J. ^

United still has its moments....although getting only 224 PQP and 2464 award miles for the just flown EWR-PEK segment is rather pathetic!
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 7:40 am
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The joys of hub captivity, and mostly domestic one at that.
Yeah, agreed. It is sad. The snacks at Denver are better than they were back in the day, but not as good as they are at other cities' clubs.

I let my United Club membership lapse about three years ago because I bought a new car and decided to economize in other areas like memberships and dining out. I haven't missed the UC much. My international travel gets me into the clubs fairly regularly, but I'm finding that hanging out on the concourse, and paying for the types of food I want, is pleasant enough.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by narvik
$1035 for an economy R/T ticket on a direct flight EWR-PEK upgraded both ways with PlusPoints to J. ^

United still has its moments....although getting only 224 PQP and 2464 award miles for the just flown EWR-PEK segment is rather pathetic!
This is pretty much it - we just booked two US-Taiwan tickets in coach for $800 each and used PPs to upgrade into Polaris, which is about what I value it at. Once this trip is done, I have one more set of upgrades to use sometime during the year, but I will be on the lookout for AC and NH deals for PQP. The new NH J seats make the Polaris seats look like barcoloungers in comparison, and the current AC seats are not significant downgrades from the Polaris seat, although the inflight catering is more Air Koryo and less Polaris, but I can eat elsewhere, it's not the end of the world considering how far downwards Polaris service has gone.

I just wish BR was included as a 1/5 partner.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 12:43 pm
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I haven't flown the new Polaris yet but been on the PMCO J seat a number of times. Direct aisle access aside, which seat do people tend to find more comfortable. The new or older seat in terms of width, bed support etc.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by COEWR2587
I haven't flown the new Polaris yet but been on the PMCO J seat a number of times. Direct aisle access aside, which seat do people tend to find more comfortable. The new or older seat in terms of width, bed support etc.
The pmCO 787 bed definitely feels wider than the 777 Polaris bed to me. And I'm not a big guy either. I found that the bed support might be slightly better on the pmCO as well, but it isn't that big a difference for me.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by COEWR2587
I haven't flown the new Polaris yet but been on the PMCO J seat a number of times. Direct aisle access aside, which seat do people tend to find more comfortable. The new or older seat in terms of width, bed support etc.
I find them to be about similar in size, with a little more of your legs captured into the footwell of the Polaris seat, so the Diamond (pmCO) seat is a little bit bigger in terms of overall footprint. The biggest difference beside the aisle access is the huge walls everywhere in the Polaris layout.
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Old Jan 23, 2020, 4:56 pm
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Finally got my ride on Polaris

Halloween 2019 SFO-PEK Booked last Christmas and upgraded with miles. Great spooky costumes at SFO. Polaris Lounge is huge, bright and looks like every other lounge. The cabin is a weird design. Very narrow aisles and a huge stack of bedding from Saks. You need to be a contortionist to get your stuff stowed and settle in for the flight. Seats had variable recline and they were very comfy as long as you didn’t try to get up. Window seats nice and private. No instructions on anything like seat controls, of course. AV barely functions … just keep pushing buttons until something happens. Great purser from Paris but the rest of the crew were robots. Everything else was fine. Wouldn’t go out of my way for Polaris, it’s just nothing special.
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Old Jan 23, 2020, 5:12 pm
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Thanks for sharing
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Old Jan 23, 2020, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by jsn55
...it’s just nothing special.
Compared to sitting in a E- middle seat in a 3-4-3 layout is very much is!
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