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General PlusPoints (was GPU) earning & usage questions [Consolidated]

Note: the term journey is used here to denote travel between a pair of cities, with one or more layovers, and all segments of the journey are part of the same ticket, confirmation number, and record locator. A one way ticket has one journey. A round trip has two journeys. A multicity ticket has three or more journeys.

Can I apply a GPU to UA metal that is ticketed on non-UA ticket stock?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19321483-post23.html says you can.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/19324013-post25.html says not always.

Can I use a GPU on flights operated by other airlines?
Yes, Copa, LH and NH.

On Copa, the rules are the same as for flights operated by UA. It can't be done online, so you have to call. The regular Premier desk can't do it, though, even though Copa uses MP as its loyalty program--you'll need to call (or be transferred to) the Star Alliance Help Desk to complete the process. (And it's an involved process for the agents--they have to duplicate the Copa PNR in SHARES and issue you a separate UA PNR. Betwen *A Desk hold times--no priority for Premiers--and the hassle it is for the agents, plan on 30-45 minutes to get this done. It may be simpler if you booked your Copa tickets through United.) Note that an RPU works anywhere on Copa that a GPU works, so don't waste GPUs unnecessarily.

On LH, the process is completely different. You can use a GPU on LH operated fights only if printed for a specific flight of a specific reservation. See
Update to Lufthansa (LH) GPU Certificate Request Process

I see GPUs for sale on Craigslist or eBay. May I buy them and use them?
We do not recommend this. If UA determines the GPU was sold, you risk having your M+ account terminated and loss of your miles, status, lifetime miles, etc.

If I have upgraded a flight with miles, cash, GPU, RPU, CPU, etc. from Y to J, may I upgrade to F with a GPU?
Policy does not allow this. However, once upgraded to business you may be offered a cash buy-up to F.

If I apply a GPU on a multi segment journey, what happens one or segments clear, and one or more do not?
The exact wording from united.com is:In most cases, the Global Premier Upgrade will be considered used if any segment of an itinerary is upgraded or flown. However, for travel which includes segments in United BusinessFirst or United Global First, the Global Premier Upgrade will be re-deposited if the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded.

This has at least three interpretations when the journey consists of segments that have all lie flat seating, and one or more upgrades to BF or GF fails, but one or more upgrades to BF or GF succeeds. The first is that since the wording is not "if any United BusinessFirst or United Global First segment(s) could not be upgraded" the GPU is not redeposited. The second is that the GPU is redeposited, even if for example, ORD-NRT was upgraded, and NRT-SIN was not. The third is that if the longest segment was not upgraded to BF or GF, the GPU is redeposited. In practice, UA agents appear to follow the third interpretation.
UPDATE: The wording in the Mileage upgrade section is a bit clearer and probably also reflects the policy for GPUs.What is the refund policy for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards that do not clear the waitlist?
If you request an upgrade using a MileagePlus Upgrade Award, and none of your travel segments are upgraded, then we will automatically redeposit your miles and co-pay. In most instances, a MileagePlus Upgrade Award will be considered used if any segment of your travel is upgraded. However, if your travel includes requested upgrades to United BusinessFirst® and/or United Global FirstSM, and none of the United BusinessFirst or United Global First segments are upgraded, then your MileagePlus Upgrade Award will not be considered used, even if you are upgraded to United First® or United Business® on another segment. In these instances, we will fully redeposit your miles and co-pay. When applicable, these refunds will occur automatically seven to 10 days after travel.

Redeposits don't always happen automatically, and when you call, you might find agents are trained to follow the longest segment interpretation, whereby if the longest segment is upgraded, even if not BF or GF, then the GPU will not be deposited. See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21138703-post394.html of push back and eventual capitulation by UA.

Can I add myself to the wait list within 24 hours of departure?
No, all you can do is attempt to apply the GPU periodically until it clears into upgrade inventory if any opens up. The 1K desk cannot put you on the wait list inside 24 hours because SHARES transfers the flight to airport control.

Do the fare class restrictions apply to domestic flights?
No, you can use a GPU on any fare on any domestic/ any CPU eligible flight.

Is there a maximum layover between segments of a journey?
Unclear. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20453548-post221.html is an example of 38 hours, where the 1K desk applied it on behalf of the customer. What is interesting about this case is that 38 hours is well beyond a layover, which implies that in some cases, one GPU can be used for two journeys on the same ticket even if the two journeys are beyond 12 hours apart (12 hours being the pmUA rule – 4 hours for North American / “domestic” only flights).

How is the waitlist prioritized?
United.com details the process in the "Upgrade confirmation priority" section of this page.
For non-CPU flightsIf an upgrade seat becomes available, waitlisted customers are confirmed automatically based on the Premier® status of the redeeming account***, then fare class, then time of request.
For CPU flights, GS and YBM fares will be handled before GPU/Miles/RPU users and finally CPU requests. Within these groups upgrades are prioritized based on Premier® status of the redeeming account***, then fare class.
If not cleared until gate, it is believe the time factor is based on check-in time.

***On 4/15/15 travelers will no longer inherit the status of the redeeming account and will instead be prioritized by the status of the highest premier member on the PNR they are traveling on.

What is the relative waitlist priority of GPU vs Miles
Appears the use of GPU vs Miles has no impact on the waitlist priority.

May I cross two oceans with one GPU?
Yes if the entire journey is on one confirmation number and the max layover rule (above) is met.

Can I avoid upgrade lottery by booking only flights that have upgrade inventory?
Yes, see Post 3-Mar-2012:How to find upgrade inventory [+how to see fare bucket availability]. Note that you have to wait for the flight to ticket, by which time upgrade inventory can disappear. If so, cancel (within 24 hours of booking, so no penalty) and try again.

My GPU is still valid, but my journey starts after the GPU expires. Can I use the GPU for that journey?
No.

My GPU is still valid, but my journey starts before the GPU expires, and ends after the GPU expires. Can I use the GPU for that journey?
Yes if the initial flight scheduled departure is prior to expiration.

Can I let someone else use my GPU?
Yes. They will be waitlisted prioritized based on your status until 4/15/2015 at which point they will be prioritized based on their own status (or lack thereof).

If I let someone else use my GPU, do I have to be on the same reservation, same journey and/or same flight?
No to all.

What happens if there are multiple pax on the same reservation confirmation number and the reservation is split; will the GPU(s) that is(are) waitlisted on one or more pax stay with the new reservation?
Yes.

Why do Non-Revs get assigned seats in First/Business instead of upgrading paying customers?
UA’s policy is paying customers have priority for upgrades. However, per UA’s employee benefit package, Non-Revs can have access to unassigned seats if there are no waitlisted paying customers. This Non-Rev benefit is part of the negotiated employee compensation.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 8:02 am
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does this mean that i will have them at my disposal for the rest of 2018? and that they will replenish once 2019 rolls around? or if i don't use the 6 GPUs, for example, then i will enter 2019 with 12 GPUs?
No. You will get 2 RPU and 6 GPU, which will be valid through January 31, 2020.
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
No. You will get 2 RPU and 6 GPU, which will be valid through January 31, 2020.
understood. thanks for the quick reply!
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 7:57 am
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GPUs no longer can be applied online?

This happens multiple times to me recently. After selecting GPU and clicking "Purchase then select seats", nothing happened.

No GPU is taken from my account.

I had to call and 1K agent said from now on it requires a call to apply GPU.

Has anyone seeing this?
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by kb1992
GPUs no longer can be applied online?

This happens multiple times to me recently. After selecting GPU and clicking "Purchase then select seats", nothing happened.

No GPU is taken from my account.

I had to call and 1K agent said from now on it requires a call to apply GPU.

Has anyone seeing this?
Probably SHARES at its' best...

I don't even want to remember what hell I had with a rebooking recently - nothing went right!!

And if they migrate to Amadeus's platform - we're screwed further...
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by kb1992
GPUs no longer can be applied online?

This happens multiple times to me recently. After selecting GPU and clicking "Purchase then select seats", nothing happened.

No GPU is taken from my account.

I had to call and 1K agent said from now on it requires a call to apply GPU.

Has anyone seeing this?
This happened to one of my reservations with RPU. A RPU is deducted and credited back immediately. So, I will try it again after my outbound is flew. If it fails, I will call reservations then.
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
Probably SHARES at its' best...
Not SHARES. It's just a website error.

Originally Posted by kb1992
I had to call and 1K agent said from now on it requires a call to apply GPU.
Sounds like MOLA to me.

Unless you were within T-24, in which case it's been true for quite a while.
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by Kmxu

This happened to one of my reservations with RPU. A RPU is deducted and credited back immediately. So, I will try it again after my outbound is flew. If it fails, I will call reservations then.
Exactly it happened to me. Lot more recently.

What's going on with UA IT?

Originally Posted by Kacee
Not SHARES. It's just a website error.

Sounds like MOLA to me.

Unless you were within T-24, in which case it's been true for quite a while.
Definitely web error. I got fed up by this and asked 1K agent to submit web bug report.

The flight is September :-)

It allowed me to apply GPU but the upgrade either not went through, or GPUs were deducted and immediately returned.
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Old Jul 23, 2018, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by kb1992
What's going on with UA IT?
They've been making lots of changes to the website.

IIRC, there were a bunch of reports of not being able to apply GPU on the website a couple months ago.
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Old Aug 8, 2018, 8:47 am
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Hi guys! Quick question which I couldn't find the answer to in the FAQ - let's say that I booked a refundable fare, and I apply a GPU to it.
  • If I cancel the flight while still on the waitlist / if the GPU hasn't cleared, do I get the GPU back?
  • If I cancel the flight after the GPU clears, do I get the GPU back?
Thanks so much!
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Old Aug 8, 2018, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieConsultant
Hi guys! Quick question which I couldn't find the answer to in the FAQ - let's say that I booked a refundable fare, and I apply a GPU to it.
  • If I cancel the flight while still on the waitlist / if the GPU hasn't cleared, do I get the GPU back?
  • If I cancel the flight after the GPU clears, do I get the GPU back?
Thanks so much!
My experience is with LH only. In both cases the GPU came back.

HTB.
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Old Aug 8, 2018, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieConsultant
let's say that I booked a refundable fare, and I apply a GPU to it.
  • If I cancel the flight while still on the waitlist / if the GPU hasn't cleared, do I get the GPU back?
  • If I cancel the flight after the GPU clears, do I get the GPU back?
Yes to both questions. It should return automatically. If it doesn't within about a week, call MPSC.
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Old Aug 18, 2018, 12:11 pm
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Question about earning PQMs on LH flight upgraded with United GPU

Hi all,

I thought I'd seen a thread on this already but couldn't find it. Here's my question, and apologies in advance if it's asked and answered here somewhere or if it's just a plain obvious question.

I recently used United GPUs to upgrade 2 LH international legs (MUC-SFO, SFO-MUC). I was originally booked in Econ (Q) on one leg, and Prem Econ (E) on the second.
I purchased the ticket through LH.com.

When the GPUs cleared, both cleared into Business (I).
When United posted the PQM mileage earning to my MP account, I noticed both legs earned miles per the original booking class, not the Business I class upgrade.

My question: Should I have earned the Business (I) class miles, etc. or the original booking class miles?

Thanks in advance!
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Old Aug 18, 2018, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by skkling
My question: Should I have earned the Business (I) class miles, etc. or the original booking class miles?
You should have earned the original booking class miles, as you would if you'd used a GPU on UA.

Be glad, actually. Fare class I is for award flights and doesn't earn miles...
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Old Aug 19, 2018, 4:19 am
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I have a GPU waitlisted on PEK-ORD later this week. J is relatively wide open as is F (currently 25/40 and 1/8 respectively with the seat maps showing 20/40 and 1/8) but it seems likely its going to go to the gate.

The first flight is on OM, a non-*A, non-UA partner -- assuming my gut feeling about it going to the gate is correct -- is there anything I can/should I do to either increase the odds of it clearing or decrease the odds of it falling into a void once we get inside T-24?

I'd call but for some reason United doesn't seem to have any local contact numbers in Mongolia
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Thanks!
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