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CO_Nonrev_elite Jan 22, 19 10:29 am

DYKWIA stories (Traveling on United Airlines)
 
While I didnít quite hear a ďDYKWIAĒ uttered, I had a good laugh at SEA catching 419 to IAD yesterday. The agents did their usual Disabilities, Military, GS, Parents call, and then when the agent called for 1Kís to board, this woman who was about 15 people back in the Group One line, literally started shouting... ď1K, 1K, Out of the way, 1K coming through" and literally was a like a bowling ball knocking down all the people in the line in front of her to push her way to the front. Rather than getting annoyed, most of the people in the group one line all laughed at her....

NDtraveler Jan 22, 19 11:54 am

I would like to coin the term shoe pearl rich...
 
I don't want to divulge too much information but....

I boarded early because of a knee injury and settled into 2B. I am not really paying attention to boarding and about 25 minutes in or so a lady boards and has a Louis Vuitton duffle bag and a LOT of bling. She is in 1B. The immediate overhead space is full and she asks the flight attendant to please put her bag up for her (she is perfectly able). The FA handles it well and is polite and firm and says no. The lady huffs and puffs her way back to row 4 or 5 (How I captured this picture). She then proceeds to complain to 1A loudly how this is unacceptable, blah blah blah. He puts on his headphones and she shuts up.

I slept most of the way and when we get to the gate I get up to stretch since my knee is hurting pretty badly. Shoe Pearl Rich Lady about knocks me down and tells people to move out of the way so she can get her bag.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0aea2c93e9.jpg

rankourabu Jan 22, 19 11:56 am


Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite (Post 30686440)
While I didnít quite hear a ďDYKWIAĒ uttered, I had a good laugh at SEA catching 419 to IAD yesterday. The agents did their usual Disabilities, Military, GS, Parents call, and then when the agent called for 1Kís to board, this woman who was about 15 people back in the Group One line, literally started shouting... ď1K, 1K, Out of the way, 1K coming through" and literally was a like a bowling ball knocking down all the people in the line in front of her to push her way to the front. Rather than getting annoyed, most of the people in the group one line all laughed at her....

I think we've all met a variation of this person.
I've seen multiple GS/1K push through (of course with like 7 carryons) - some with audible grunts, some silently, but I've yet to meet a screamer :D

manstein58 Jan 22, 19 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by NDtraveler (Post 30686806)
I don't want to divulge too much information but....

I boarded early because of a knee injury and settled into 2B. I am not really paying attention to boarding and about 25 minutes in or so a lady boards and has a Louis Vuitton duffle bag and a LOT of bling. She is in 1B. The immediate overhead space is full and she asks the flight attendant to please put her bag up for her (she is perfectly able). The FA handles it well and is polite and firm and says no. The lady huffs and puffs her way back to row 4 or 5 (How I captured this picture). She then proceeds to complain to 1A loudly how this is unacceptable, blah blah blah. He puts on his headphones and she shuts up.

I slept most of the way and when we get to the gate I get up to stretch since my knee is hurting pretty badly. Shoe Pearl Rich Lady about knocks me down and tells people to move out of the way so she can get her bag.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0aea2c93e9.jpg

Those boots are eerily similar to the Nazguls' boots in LOTR!! Egads!

PushingTin Jan 24, 19 12:41 am


Originally Posted by CO_Nonrev_elite (Post 30686440)
While I didnít quite hear a ďDYKWIAĒ uttered, I had a good laugh at SEA catching 419 to IAD yesterday. The agents did their usual Disabilities, Military, GS, Parents call, and then when the agent called for 1Kís to board, this woman who was about 15 people back in the Group One line, literally started shouting... ď1K, 1K, Out of the way, 1K coming through" and literally was a like a bowling ball knocking down all the people in the line in front of her to push her way to the front. Rather than getting annoyed, most of the people in the group one line all laughed at her....

I'm not a huge fan of the 1K pre-board. Pre-boarding is getting a little crazy and the number of gate lice now is going up a lot, especially on some routes.

I don't know who is the DYKWIA, but I was getting ready for a flight and there are the 10-12 people milling around the check in counter. A couple has been slowly easing their way closer to the podium and the stop short right besides me. 1Ks are going to be last called. But before they are called, she starts to try to wriggle past me. I just shoot her a crusty look, that was really way over the top- the kind of look that should be reserved for genocide conspirators. And she just stops in her tracks. Actually didn't think that she would stop. Felt bad about it now, and she seemed to realize that she was being a bit pushy and felt bad about it.

Still boarded in front of her.

n198ua Jan 24, 19 12:54 am


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 30693641)
I'm not a huge fan of the 1K pre-board. Pre-boarding is getting a little crazy and the number of gate lice now is going up a lot, especially on some routes.

I don't know who is the DYKWIA, but I was getting ready for a flight and there are the 10-12 people milling around the check in counter. A couple has been slowly easing their way closer to the podium and the stop short right besides me. 1Ks are going to be last called. But before they are called, she starts to try to wriggle past me. I just shoot her a crusty look, that was really way over the top- the kind of look that should be reserved for genocide conspirators. And she just stops in her tracks. Actually didn't think that she would stop. Felt bad about it now, and she seemed to realize that she was being a bit pushy and felt bad about it.

Still boarded in front of her.

I've read this a couple of times and I'm still not sure what happened. You were in line to board and someone tried to cut in front of you ?

jsloan Jan 24, 19 8:14 am


Originally Posted by n198ua (Post 30693674)
I've read this a couple of times and I'm still not sure what happened. You were in line to board and someone tried to cut in front of you ?

This is my problem with 1K pre-boarding. There's no line to cut into (except at NRT).

Instead, people hover somewhere near the entrance to the gate area and more-or-less wait for 1K pre-boarding to be called -- but since there's no line, it's impossible for anybody to tell the difference between other 1Ks waiting for the pre-boarding call and non-1Ks who like to stand near the gate... and so you get this mass of people all independently moving toward the gate agent like the 1K Zombie Apocalypse.

tryathlete Jan 24, 19 8:33 am


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30694721)
This is my problem with 1K pre-boarding. There's no line to cut into (except at NRT).

Instead, people hover somewhere near the entrance to the gate area and more-or-less wait for 1K pre-boarding to be called -- but since there's no line, it's impossible for anybody to tell the difference between other 1Ks waiting for the pre-boarding call and non-1Ks who like to stand near the gate... and so you get this mass of people all independently moving toward the gate agent like the 1K Zombie Apocalypse.

PERFECT!

malgudi Jan 24, 19 8:47 am


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 30693641)
I'm not a huge fan of the 1K pre-board. Pre-boarding is getting a little crazy and the number of gate lice now is going up a lot, especially on some routes.

I don't know who is the DYKWIA, but I was getting ready for a flight and there are the 10-12 people milling around the check in counter. A couple has been slowly easing their way closer to the podium and the stop short right besides me. 1Ks are going to be last called. But before they are called, she starts to try to wriggle past me. I just shoot her a crusty look, that was really way over the top- the kind of look that should be reserved for genocide conspirators. And she just stops in her tracks. Actually didn't think that she would stop. Felt bad about it now, and she seemed to realize that she was being a bit pushy and felt bad about it.

Still boarded in front of her.

Care to repost? This makes zero sense and hard to understand what really happened and why such a big deal "genocide"?

mdbe Jan 24, 19 8:58 am


Originally Posted by manstein58 (Post 30687036)
Those boots are eerily similar to the Nazguls' boots in LOTR!! Egads!

actually those are chanel. :sigh: donít even get me started on how i know that

StuckinITH Jan 24, 19 9:02 am


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30694721)
This is my problem with 1K pre-boarding. There's no line to cut into (except at NRT).

In HKG, in December they also organized a line for the 1Ks. I think it's to follow the same modus operandi that they had before. They always have agents going through the lines checking passports and boarding passes and in the process they make sure that passengers are in the correct lines. The checking of everyone in every line happens too in PVG and PEK.

lehms Jan 24, 19 10:37 am

Not quite a DYKWIA but my wife , my GS companion, was waiting to board a recent flight and a lady crowding the boarding area clearly annoyed when they called for GS, and my wife said excuse me as she boarded
the lady said really really loudly,

“you go fancy lady”, she then proceeded to drink several glasses of her preferred wine , spilling the last glass, and being really rude to the flight attendants

my wife proactively complimented them and wrote a letter in their support

LIH Jan 24, 19 10:44 am

This AM first flight ORD > LGA GS shows up at the end of boarding with a roller board and huge carry-on while he's in 1A. Proceeds to berate the FA when they calmly say "let's see if we can find anything farther back for you...". Ultimately found him something a few rows into coach but he wouldn't let it go. As we disembark he was still complaining loudly to the FA about "being late for meetings" because he had to wait 90 seconds to get his bag. I just stared at him until we made direct eye contact for long enough that I guess he got uncomfortable and shut up. People are ridiculous. Not what I needed after a 3:40 AM wake-up call on a -5 degree day in Chicago.

PushingTin Jan 28, 19 12:04 am


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30694721)
This is my problem with 1K pre-boarding. There's no line to cut into (except at NRT).

Instead, people hover somewhere near the entrance to the gate area and more-or-less wait for 1K pre-boarding to be called -- but since there's no line, it's impossible for anybody to tell the difference between other 1Ks waiting for the pre-boarding call and non-1Ks who like to stand near the gate... and so you get this mass of people all independently moving toward the gate agent like the 1K Zombie Apocalypse.

That is exactly my point. And that GAs call the groups in seemingly random order, it makes it even more of a cluster. Obviously, for bag issues, I usually don't care- except if I'm in a bulkhead row, on a small 318/19 especially. Other than that it just irks my inner (and usually dormant) order freak. I LOVE lines. They are simple, they are monovariable. Everyone knows what the order is. The degrees of freedom in the BP doesn't need to be there.

lincolnjkc Jan 28, 19 5:44 am


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 30708809)
That is exactly my point. And that GAs call the groups in seemingly random order, it makes it even more of a cluster. Obviously, for bag issues, I usually don't care- except if I'm in a bulkhead row, on a small 318/19 especially. Other than that it just irks my inner (and usually dormant) order freak. I LOVE lines. They are simple, they are monovariable. Everyone knows what the order is. The degrees of freedom in the BP doesn't need to be there.

Ditto on the benefit of lines, but the order is very clear and the gate area monitors reinforce that -- so except for the (smaller and smaller number) of GAs that go rogue no 1K should be surprised by the pecking order at this point. As the GA paged at the beginning of my last trip "Our final pre-boarding group is here more often than I am -- our Premier 1K flyers, you know who you are -- 100,000 or more miles per year -- you are welcome to pre-board and thank you for your business..."

wxguy Jan 28, 19 6:42 am


Originally Posted by lincolnjkc (Post 30709517)
As the GA paged at the beginning of my last trip "Our final pre-boarding group is here more often than I am -- our Premier 1K flyers, you know who you are -- 100,000 or more miles per year -- you are welcome to pre-board and thank you for your business..."

Well, not quite true. Three round-trips in paid Z east coast to SIN gets you enough PQM for 1K.

teeceedee Feb 4, 19 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30694721)
This is my problem with 1K pre-boarding. There's no line to cut into (except at NRT).

Instead, people hover somewhere near the entrance to the gate area and more-or-less wait for 1K pre-boarding to be called -- but since there's no line, it's impossible for anybody to tell the difference between other 1Ks waiting for the pre-boarding call and non-1Ks who like to stand near the gate... and so you get this mass of people all independently moving toward the gate agent like the 1K Zombie Apocalypse.

Guess I'm the odd one out here, I don't mind this at all. Even out of IAH where 1K pre-boarding is 20+, it's a generic "shuffle" to get on the plane. No real line, but definitely a lot less anxiety then when it was G1 and you could be 50 people back. The (still large) pre-boarding group is small enough to where there's no anxiety to ensure you don't get cut in the non-existent pre-board line, IMO.

laxmillenial Mar 15, 19 5:58 am

This morning at SFO; premier check-in area was a bit weird. But that's no excuse to GS members. I'm sorry but this guy gives you guys a bad rep. So, there are two lines, GS/1K,Polaris and Premier.

Everyone appears to be lined up in Premier. I line up in 1K,Polaris line (and GS) and ...

GS#1 says "that's not a line".
Me: "Ok, thanks" and I line up behind everyone else in the Premier line.
Wait 2 minutes...
GS#2: <Lines up in the 1K/Polaris/GS line that I was just in>
GS#1: "That's not a line"
GS#2: "I'm GS" "Who are you" "I don't have to listen to you"
GS#1: "Hey man, I'm GS too. The agent told me to line up here; there's only one line"
GS#2: "Shut up. Who are you. I'm GS"
<insert 90 seconds of bickering like 5 year olds>
Agent: <Tells GS#2 that he's not in a line and he moves to the back of the queue like everyone else>

I mean seriously guys. These were grown men wearing wedding rings. It's not a freaking contest about who has the biggest ego. Grow up. If I'm in my 20s and I understand the concept of lines, you have had 20-30+ years longer to understand the concept of lines. <Insert comment about how I wish I could publicly shame some people but i bet you if I stuck my neck out that guy would just be an ahole right back...so I post it on Flyertalk>

SFOdelayed Mar 15, 19 6:22 am


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30889826)
This morning at SFO; premier check-in area was a bit weird. But that's no excuse to GS members. I'm sorry but this guy gives you guys a bad rep. So, there are two lines, GS/1K,Polaris and Premier.

Everyone appears to be lined up in Premier. I line up in 1K,Polaris line (and GS) and ...

GS#1 says "that's not a line".
Me: "Ok, thanks" and I line up behind everyone else in the Premier line.
Wait 2 minutes...
GS#2: <Lines up in the 1K/Polaris/GS line that I was just in>
GS#1: "That's not a line"
GS#2: "I'm GS" "Who are you" "I don't have to listen to you"
GS#1: "Hey man, I'm GS too. The agent told me to line up here; there's only one line"
GS#2: "Shut up. Who are you. I'm GS"
<insert 90 seconds of bickering like 5 year olds>
Agent: <Tells GS#2 that he's not in a line and he moves to the back of the queue like everyone else>

I mean seriously guys. These were grown men wearing wedding rings. It's not a freaking contest about who has the biggest ego. Grow up. If I'm in my 20s and I understand the concept of lines, you have had 20-30+ years longer to understand the concept of lines. <Insert comment about how I wish I could publicly shame some people but i bet you if I stuck my neck out that guy would just be an ahole right back...so I post it on Flyertalk>

Canít wait for the corresponding post in the GS benefits thread with someone complaining about how GS has gone down the tubes because they couldnít cut the line 🙂

wondering why they didnít just use the GS lobby?

laxmillenial Mar 15, 19 6:25 am


Originally Posted by SFOdelayed (Post 30889907)


Canít wait for the corresponding post in the GS benefits thread with someone complaining about how GS has gone down the tubes because they couldnít cut the line 🙂

wondering why they didnít just use the GS lobby?

i assume because it wasnít open? When does it open on weekdays?

bman1002 Mar 15, 19 8:24 am


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30889826)
This morning at SFO;

I know there are entitled folks at every airport, but I feel like I see something similar every time at SFO in the premier check-in area.

cerealmarketer Mar 15, 19 11:02 am


Originally Posted by bman1002 (Post 30890349)
I know there are entitled folks at every airport, but I feel like I see something similar every time at SFO in the premier check-in area.

There is something about that particular line. Two side by side with a rope - sign at the beginning but a 90 degree turn along the way - not terribly clear there's a difference when you're at the head of the line.

And 1K / Polaris usually has no one.

Funny the GS don't know their lobby benefit.

GDL Mar 15, 19 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30889918)


i assume because it wasnít open? When does it open on weekdays?

Was this at SFO terminal 3 or in the International terminal? I believe the GS check-in area is in terminal 3, which would make for a very long walk if you were in International terminal.
I am more amused than surprised by such bickering. A thread like this one has made me more aware at all the nonsense ant entitled behavior happening around airports. It would have been amazing to witness if these two folks were to be seatmates on their upcoming flights.

bman1002 Mar 15, 19 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by GDL (Post 30891878)
It would have been amazing to witness if these two folks were to be seatmates on their upcoming flights.

Other than trying to be a nice person in general, this is why I try to avoid being snippy to other folks at the airport :-).

kirkwoodj Mar 15, 19 8:22 pm

Read first line, immediately thought they Sound like unearned/gifted/corporate GS or MM designees since not using Global Reception :rolleyes:

txaggiemiles Mar 15, 19 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by cerealmarketer (Post 30891016)
There is something about that particular line. Two side by side with a rope - sign at the beginning but a 90 degree turn along the way - not terribly clear there's a difference when you're at the head of the line.

And 1K / Polaris usually has no one.

Funny the GS don't know their lobby benefit.

So Iím a bit confused... was there actually only one line with two signs above it or were there two signs representing two lines but the agent was only recognizing one?

laxmillenial Mar 15, 19 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by GDL (Post 30891878)
Was this at SFO terminal 3 or in the International terminal? I believe the GS check-in area is in terminal 3, which would make for a very long walk if you were in International terminal.
I am more amused than surprised by such bickering. A thread like this one has made me more aware at all the nonsense ant entitled behavior happening around airports. It would have been amazing to witness if these two folks were to be seatmates on their upcoming flights.

This was T3.

laxmillenial Mar 15, 19 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by txaggiemiles (Post 30892800)


So I’m a bit confused... was there actually only one line with two signs above it or were there two signs representing two lines but the agent was only recognizing one?

the latter. 2 lines; 2 signs, but the agent said due to limited staffing in the early AM, she asked if everyone could line up in one line. I do not blame the agent/UA at all. She was very nice; kept asking what people needed and if they were just checking a bag; did it for them at the machines. She bent over backwards to be nice to this gentlemen who clearly didn't deserve it.

txaggiemiles Mar 15, 19 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30892958)
the latter. 2 lines; 2 signs, but the agent said due to limited staffing in the early AM, she asked if everyone could line up in one line. I do not blame the agent/UA at all. She was very nice; kept asking what people needed and if they were just checking a bag; did it for them at the machines. She bent over backwards to be nice to this gentlemen who clearly didn't deserve it.

I didnít see it, so I defer to you who did -

but in this case I might have questioned in the same way GS2 did. I wonder if GS1 could have said ďthe agent isnít allowing two linesĒ rather than just ďthatís not a lineĒ. But tone (for both GS1 and 2) maters a lot.

Kacee Mar 16, 19 5:28 am


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30892958)
the agent said due to limited staffing in the early AM, she asked if everyone could line up in one line

Limited staffing is a big problem at SFO T3 Premier check-in counters virtually all day. The two times I've had to drop a bag recently there were either 1 or 2 agents working, a row of unstaffed kiosks, and a long line.

The UA employees managing the lines are not at all happy about it because they have to field complaints from angry Premiers all day long. They say that line-cutting by non-Premiers is also a big problem. UA has now put up manned barriers to block access, but apparently people just sneak under and the contract agents staffing the kiosks won't send them back.

This is purely cost cutting by UA. It matches up with what they're doing to the onboard Polaris service.

kirkwoodj Mar 16, 19 6:38 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 30893560)

This is purely cost cutting by UA. It matches up with what they're doing to the onboard Polaris service.

Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe the FAs they cut from the Polaris flights could work the desk!

LIH Mar 16, 19 8:55 am


Originally Posted by SFOdelayed (Post 30889907)
...wondering why they didnít just use the GS lobby?

My experience with the SFO GS lobby is that it often has a 3-5 person line in it so isn't worth anything other than getting to hop the TSA line.

porciuscato Mar 16, 19 9:12 am


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30892958)
the latter. 2 lines; 2 signs, but the agent said due to limited staffing in the early AM, she asked if everyone could line up in one line. I do not blame the agent/UA at all. She was very nice; kept asking what people needed and if they were just checking a bag; did it for them at the machines. She bent over backwards to be nice to this gentlemen who clearly didn't deserve it.

That seems like something everybody should be writing to complain about then. Part of being GS/1K or flying "Polaris" is that you're not supposed to be stuck in a single line with everyone else.

Kacee Mar 16, 19 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by LIH (Post 30893997)
My experience with the SFO GS lobby is that it often has a 3-5 person line in it so isn't worth anything other than getting to hop the TSA line.

The Premier check-in often has a 10-20 person line.

laxmillenial Mar 16, 19 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by porciuscato (Post 30894053)
That seems like something everybody should be writing to complain about then. Part of being GS/1K or flying "Polaris" is that you're not supposed to be stuck in a single line with everyone else.

I agree with you. If you donít like it, do something. Write in. Call in. Contact your corporate contacts.

But Iím sorry. Just because a line is closed, grown men have absolutely no right to be downright snobby, rude, or an ahole to other people and bicker like little five year olds. Thereís rarely any justification for such snobby attitude displayed by the GS #2 imo.

txaggiemiles Mar 16, 19 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 30895419)
Thereís rarely any justification for such snobby attitude displayed by the GS #2 imo.

And GS#1, for that matter

flyingvee Mar 17, 19 7:10 am


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30694721)
1K Zombie Apocalypse.

Only once in a very long while does someone utter or write a brief pithy phrase that captures a concept so accurately and poetically. Well done!

The NRT preboarding area is a pretty good compromise, I think. UA is on a tightrope. They actually have ten boarding groups, but they don't want anybody to know that. If it were transparent, then they'd have constant DYKWIA from non-elite first-class pax and Silver elites, and everyone in between, who are all the way down in groups 6 or 7.

Maybe this is just temporary, and next year it'll be smoother when there are fewer 1Ks due to the higher PQD requirements and the reduction in GPU/RPU earnings.

Kacee Mar 17, 19 7:26 am


Originally Posted by flyingvee (Post 30896642)
Maybe this is just temporary, and next year it'll be smoother when there are fewer 1Ks due to the higher PQD requirements and the reduction in GPU/RPU earnings.

People have been saying that since 2013 when PQD requirement was first announced. Hasn't happened yet.

flyingvee Mar 17, 19 7:30 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 30896681)
People have been saying that since 2013 when PQD requirement was first announced. Hasn't happened yet.

Ha, I guess my greenness is showing! This is only my third year as a 1K. Soon I'll learn to let go of my optimism and faith in humanity. ;)

DELee Mar 17, 19 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30694721)
the 1K Zombie Apocalypse.


Originally Posted by flyingvee (Post 30896692)
Ha, I guess my greenness is showing! This is only my third year as a 1K. Soon I'll learn to let go of my optimism and faith in humanity. ;)

Naw - you'll just be one of those 1Ks sitting in Y who get served a snack box and then comment to the FA: "But I wanted the _new_ brains"

(this _is_ the DYKWIA thread...) ;)

David


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