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United Evaluating U.S. to Singapore Nonstop

Old Dec 8, 15, 6:22 pm
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United Evaluating U.S. to Singapore Nonstop

http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...gapore-service
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It looks like United may want to get a jump on U.S.-Singapore nonstop, which Singapore Airlines plans to resume in 2018.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 6:28 pm
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With what equipment?

A tiny subfleet of the A350 ULR model?
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Old Dec 8, 15, 6:39 pm
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how much 'work' on the 789 would they have to do to make e.g. SFO-SIN work range-wise?
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Old Dec 8, 15, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer View Post
how much 'work' on the 789 would they have to do to make e.g. SFO-SIN work range-wise?
They considered it on the 789 for summer 16 supposedly but would take too much of a penalty. They are evaluating the A359ULR but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 7:14 pm
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IMO that route doesn't make sense for anyone except SQ, which, with a US nonstop to SIN, can offer 1-stops with unsurpassed hard and soft product throughout SE Asia/Oceania.

UA doesn't even codeshare with SQ, so all they can offer in comparison is a single point-to-point with an uncompetitive product. Doesn't make sense to me at all.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 7:22 pm
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They should consider BKK instead of SIN first.

How's UA supposed to be competitive against SQ
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Old Dec 8, 15, 7:22 pm
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A huge ^ from me. Doing SFO-NRT-SIN-CGK for the last year and a half monthly has become a grind of only growing proportions. I'm doing 837 SFO-NRT, 803 NRT-SIN, which gets me into Changi at 1a. Onward flights to Jakarta start at 6:30a with Garuda, and 6:45a with SQ.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 7:46 pm
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Originally Posted by TennisNoob View Post
They should consider BKK instead of SIN first.

How's UA supposed to be competitive against SQ
You beat me to it.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 7:49 pm
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i would love the ambition if this turns out to be true, and i apologize for echoing seemingly everyone else, but i just don't see how this makes sense.

UA isn't in a position (especially competing against SQ) to command the premiums required to make lifting all that fuel profitable.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by riphamilton View Post
i would love the ambition if this turns out to be true, and i apologize for echoing seemingly everyone else, but i just don't see how this makes sense.

UA isn't in a position (especially competing against SQ) to command the premiums required to make lifting all that fuel profitable.
Wouldn't hurt for UA to pull off the route once SQ gets started.
If UA can make it by summer 2016, they can get out end of 2018 when SQ gets onboard.

Now is an great time too given the European market is not doing too well.

Lots of people are looking at UA's PAX load. But many forget that UA is really big in the cargo world.

Like I said previously I have no clue why UA isn't doing direct BKK when they are best known for jumping away from it's competition.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by TennisNoob View Post
How's UA supposed to be competitive against SQ
Singapore is not as strong as it used to be - it has been hurt badly by the strength of the ME3 in recent years. Maybe United sees an opportunity here. The wealth of corporate contracts helps United offset inferior hard and soft product.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by tuolumne View Post
Doing SFO-NRT-SIN-CGK for the last year and a half monthly has become a grind of only growing proportions.
Why not just do ANA from NRT to CGK?
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Old Dec 8, 15, 9:08 pm
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I think SQ did both LAX and JFK nonstop with the 345 and had to stop due to fuel prices, right? It was all Business Class, right?

I can't access that article...would UA do it from EWR or SFO?

I can see it opening up new markets such as one stop service to KUL, PER, DPS which can be cool.

Also, I am guessing UA has a decent amount of corporate contracts for people going to SIN?
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Old Dec 8, 15, 9:31 pm
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I can't access that article...would UA do it from EWR or SFO?
I assume SFO.

UA would want pax to go EWR-SFO-SIN instead.

Just like they do with Australia from LAX
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Old Dec 8, 15, 9:52 pm
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Snowball's chance in a sauna.
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