Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Short miles for award, What about transferring from another account? Alternatives?
UA has no policy preventing MP members from using the miles or upgrades for family members or friends or even strangers AS LONG as you do not seek compensation (cash or barter) for those gifts. It is best if you brief the recipient that this is a gift and no compensation was provide -- provide a letter may be good idea. Gifting to strangers has the risk if they are challenge they may be unable to properly explained how they received this gift, potential create an impression it was not a "gift"
UA has no policy preventing MP members from using the miles or upgrades for family members or friends or even strangers AS LONG as you do not seek compensation (cash or barter) for those gifts. It is best if you brief the recipient that this is a gift and no compensation was provide -- provide a letter may be good idea. Gifting to strangers has the risk if they are challenge they may be unable to properly explained how they received this gift, potential create an impression it was not a "gift"
Should I be hesitant to book an award or upgrades for family / friends?
#62
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I would like to redeem a roundtrip flight for a deserving friend. She works hard, but is barely making ends meet in a high cost of living city.
Is UA going to shut down my account and confiscate my miles? Given my friend and I don't share the same name and address, would UA perceive this as an attempt to profit off my miles?
Redemption would be the only way for her to accept. She would not accept a cash ticket from me.
Is UA going to shut down my account and confiscate my miles? Given my friend and I don't share the same name and address, would UA perceive this as an attempt to profit off my miles?
Redemption would be the only way for her to accept. She would not accept a cash ticket from me.
The letter of the law is that you can book travel for whomever you wish, as long as you are not receiving any form of compensation for it. The actual ground truth is that unless you deal with complete strangers and thereby end up with a United agent as a counterparty to a quid-pro-quo transaction, or have some wildly strange pattern of booking (e.g. booking travel for 50 different people over six months with no apparent connection to each other), you will not hear anything from United. People book awards and give upgrades to family, friends, and co-workers all the time.
#63
Join Date: Sep 2005
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RNE, saying I wouldn't make a habit of it, though.
#64
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RNE, saying I wouldn't make a habit of it, though.
#66
Join Date: Dec 2010
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You say that it's not commonplace but yet you've done it recently, and others on this thread (including me) do it all the time. If that's not commonplace I don't know what is. It is not something one is getting away with and unlikely to get caught (like throwing away a return leg of a r/t ticket), it's a totally normal thing to do and is both explicitly permitted and unlikely to raise any red flags.
Why not?
Why not?
#67
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I do this all the time for friends and family. I have the miles and the ability to find great Saver availability. You are specifically asked for the name of the pax when making the reservation. The only payment involved is my love for them.
The thing that annoys me is the recent change where their reservation is no longer automatically populated in My Reservations. Since it was my miles/RPU/cash that was used I think it should populate (great internal control) to ensure I legitimately used my miles/cash/certs, etc.
It would make sense that I not automatically see the reservation if I did not know the person (i.e. had "sold" my miles), but these are my friends and family and I babysit their reservations until they have taken the flight.
I do not understand why anyone thinks you need to limit the sharing of giving trips to friends and family. I also give my friends and family rides in my car and I am not an uber/lyft driver and receive no payment.
The thing that annoys me is the recent change where their reservation is no longer automatically populated in My Reservations. Since it was my miles/RPU/cash that was used I think it should populate (great internal control) to ensure I legitimately used my miles/cash/certs, etc.
It would make sense that I not automatically see the reservation if I did not know the person (i.e. had "sold" my miles), but these are my friends and family and I babysit their reservations until they have taken the flight.
I do not understand why anyone thinks you need to limit the sharing of giving trips to friends and family. I also give my friends and family rides in my car and I am not an uber/lyft driver and receive no payment.
#68
Join Date: Sep 2005
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RNE, intending to continue to use my miles to help others, but not going to be Pollyanna about the risk of United misconstruing it; it can.
#70
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One could also be scared that United out of nowhere suspects that your credit card used for the purchase of a ticked is stolen, and that ones name resembles one on the do-not-fly list, and subsequently cancel your tickets.
Can't recall any such reports here on FT of this happening.
If you don't sell your GPUs on eBay, you're just fine!
And yes, I also book award flights for others (where UA has no knowledge whether those persons are related to me or not)
#71
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Singapore
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Risk of giving away GPU
Do I run any risk in giving away GPUs? I know people have had their MileagePlus accounts closed who tried to sell GPUs, but I am willing to give them away for free, without anything in return. Do I still run a risk in doing so?
#72
Join Date: May 2003
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https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...-upgrades.html
In summary: Sponsoring someone else for an upgrade with your GPU is fine. Only if money or bartering comes into the conversation do you create a problem.
IMHO, the "risk" becomes sponsoring someone then the GPU doesn't clear and you don't have enough time to apply it to a new reservation before the expiry date.
So chose your donee's wisely.
#73
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If it's truly for friends and family it's not a problem. I've given away a whole bunch. People get in trouble when they expand "friends and family" beyond its reasonable limits (usually in connection with some sort of scheme involving payment of compensation in one manner or another).
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