Dec 3, 2015, 3:17 pm
[Denied by UA Insider]: BIG changes to Million Miler program imminent
Dec 3, 2015, 9:07 am
#166
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
As others have doubtless said, this change would be the last straw for me. I've been on the cusp of leaving for aa for a while now but stayed because of "guaranteed" lifetime gold and the companion benefit. Once they take that away from me I think there's no more reasons to stay.
Dec 3, 2015, 9:11 am
#167
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CT/NY
Programs: UA 1K/1MM, AA EXP, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 6,020
It came through as an e-mail. Make sure you allow regular MP communications.
Dec 3, 2015, 10:24 am
#168
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA MileagePlus (Premier Gold); Hilton HHonors (Gold); Chase Ultimate Rewards; Amex Plat
Posts: 6,667
Having been to the UA Rumor Rodeo many times, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't think this will happen. Granting 1MM lifetime 2P in place of 1P is such crazy bad business that not even UA would go there. When they took away the RPUs, they gave the spouse/partner benefit; it hurt some, benefited others. To devalue every MM threshold by a M+ tier is just pure meanness. At the very least I think it's only fair to give a minimum 12-month warning.
I know, I know... Call me deluded if you will, but even though they can and have done such things in the past, I just don't see this happening in the short term in the way the OP describes.
I know, I know... Call me deluded if you will, but even though they can and have done such things in the past, I just don't see this happening in the short term in the way the OP describes.
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Dec 3, 2015, 10:39 am
#169
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K, AA Gold
Posts: 157
As others have doubtless said, this change would be the last straw for me. I've been on the cusp of leaving for aa for a while now but stayed because of "guaranteed" lifetime gold and the companion benefit. Once they take that away from me I think there's no more reasons to stay.
Dec 3, 2015, 10:50 am
#170
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AADULtArer
Posts: 5,681
I certainly hope so. If this happens, I would have no incentive to fly UA anymore. I always thought that the UA MM program was the best incentive one could have to put all of your miles not just in a certain alliance, but on a specific metal. I've been doing > 50k BIS on UA for several years now and if nothing changes, I'll keep doing it for many years to come.
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Dec 3, 2015, 10:51 am
#171
Moderator, Hertz; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KRK
Programs: UA 1MM, BA GGL, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Diamond and others
Posts: 12,690
hmm, last deval UA Insider made the announcement in Sept 2011 with the changes in spring 2012. So about a 6 month notification.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17146161-post1.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17146161-post1.html
Dec 3, 2015, 11:12 am
#172
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Washington DC
Programs: Former 1k, Lifetime UA Gold, Starwood Gold; Avis Preferred; Hertz Gold
Posts: 1,731
hmm, last deval UA Insider made the announcement in Sept 2011 with the changes in spring 2012. So about a 6 month notification.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17146161-post1.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17146161-post1.html
Dec 3, 2015, 11:12 am
#173
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA-GS 4M, Hilton Diamond , Marriott Platinum
Posts: 83
If the rumor is true, United will likely lose me as a premium cabin passenger.
I am about 500k short of 4 MM and making lifetime GS is a goal. I am already lifetime 1K and spend about $100K+ a year on UA metals.
If this change does take place, NH, CX and SQ will likely getting my transpacific business and LX, OZ or BA will get my tranatlantic flights. There is no incentive to fly UA as a lifetime 1k.
I am about 500k short of 4 MM and making lifetime GS is a goal. I am already lifetime 1K and spend about $100K+ a year on UA metals.
If this change does take place, NH, CX and SQ will likely getting my transpacific business and LX, OZ or BA will get my tranatlantic flights. There is no incentive to fly UA as a lifetime 1k.
Dec 3, 2015, 11:48 am
#174
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: DL Diamond, UA 1K MM, SPG Plat For Life, Marriott Plat, Nexus/GlobalEntry
Posts: 9,198
Many terrible things have been announced as rumors over the years here and ultimately never materialized. I do hope this is one of them. However if they do make the change then I hope they announce it and give everyone the 2016 calendar year to try and achieve their next level under the hold program. I'm at 1.844MM and if I needed to I would hit 2MM in 2016 for Plat for life. I really wanted 1K for life eventually...including those 6 GPU's, etc.
If they take away my ability to get at least Plat for life without giving me any chance of making a run at it.. I'm going to be really disappointed.
If they take away my ability to get at least Plat for life without giving me any chance of making a run at it.. I'm going to be really disappointed.
Dec 3, 2015, 12:23 pm
#175
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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After all, MM is only promised United Gold, not Star Gold. So all MMs would continue to enjoy exclusive benefits of UA Gold, whatever they may be in the future.
Counting on UA Gold = Star Gold long term is foolish IMO.
Dec 3, 2015, 12:50 pm
#176
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: UA MM *Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 1,852
I will cross the mm mile mark on Jan 14, I could cross it by Dec 25 if I do a mileage run of 4,000 miles YVR ORD SFO YVR right now for USD340.00 but I think I will hold tight. Hopefully if the devaluation comes and if all that are mm gold are grandfathered in it will be announce for something starting March 1 etc.
Dec 3, 2015, 1:05 pm
#177
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Hyatt GLOB, Marriott Lifetime PLT, UA 1K 1MM.
Posts: 1,728
you'd think it would behoove UA/UAI to at least come out and say "no this is false" or "there will be changes but we are working on the details." at least something to cut down the speculation.
Dec 3, 2015, 1:07 pm
#178
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I shall wait until the official announcement.
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Dec 3, 2015, 1:44 pm
#179
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 362
As others have doubtless said, this change would be the last straw for me. I've been on the cusp of leaving for aa for a while now but stayed because of "guaranteed" lifetime gold and the companion benefit. Once they take that away from me I think there's no more reasons to stay.
Dec 3, 2015, 2:26 pm
#180
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,645
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter what the competition offers for flying 1MM on their airline. If UA offers a given benefit in return for flying 1 million miles, and gives that same benefit to someone who applies for and carries a certain credit card, they have effectively eliminated the incentive to fly UA more than the competition.
If they aren't going to provide a realistic incentive to fly UA, why bother with MP at all?
If they aren't going to provide a realistic incentive to fly UA, why bother with MP at all?
I get nearly the same benefit with the card, don't mind paying for e+ the few times I have to fly UA. The only benefit of 1mm/gold for life that I can perceive is free access to *a lounges on international trips.
If they wipe that away, I see nothing left compared with paying $95/yr for the card.