Does a contract employee at security have authority to deny carry on bag?
Traveling in BF on PS today. Guy at security (not TSA, not UA) told me my second carry on bag was too big, and I couldn't go through.
Truth is, it was too big (for the sizer). I almost never have more than one bag, and my second bag was a rolling briefcase. No, it doesn't fit under the seat in PS, though it does in regular FC. The guy told me that if UA allows it, I could go through. UA agent comes over and rolls her eyes at contact guy, saying "that looks fine." Yes, I was the guy with an oversized bag. My bad. But does the guy who checks if we are in the right security line have authority to be a bag gatekeeper? |
Originally Posted by zrs70
(Post 25767030)
But does the guy who checks if we are in the right security line have authority to be a bag gatekeeper?
I would say unless UA employee steps in, I will listen to them. |
He has the authority if the airline has given it to him. More likely, he will refer the matter to one of their staff for a decision.
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Originally Posted by garykung
(Post 25767237)
AFAIK - they are considered as UA vendors.
I would say unless UA employee steps in, I will listen to them. |
No, they don't.
I once had a clearly-compliant bag with me and was challenged by a vendor line monitor to go back to the counter and check it. I just kept walking. She yelled at me, "Do you want to fly today?" I replied, "Do you want a job tomorrow?" I approached the TSA ID checker and he smiled :D |
Originally Posted by zrs70
(Post 25767030)
Traveling in BF on PS today. Guy at security (not TSA, not UA) told me my second carry on bag was too big, and I couldn't go through.
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Absolutely not. They have no authority in denying you into the security checkpoint. Airlines don't own the checkpoint.
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Originally Posted by riphamilton
(Post 25767633)
this was at EWR, correct? it's been reported on FT that it happens there all the time.
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UA should have denied OP boarding with the non-compliant bag.
Turning people back at the checkpoint makes sense but, making sense is against FT rules. Would like to see some of the contractors file whistleblower complaints with FAA about an incident such as this. Clearly a violation of UA's policy and thus FAA rules. The contractor gets a piece of the fine and UA maybe starts telling its own employees not to interfere. |
Originally Posted by zrs70
(Post 25767030)
Traveling in BF on PS today. Guy at security (not TSA, not UA) told me my second carry on bag was too big, and I couldn't go through.
Truth is, it was too big (for the sizer). I almost never have more than one bag, and my second bag was a rolling briefcase. No, it doesn't fit under the seat in PS, though it does in regular FC. The guy told me that if UA allows it, I could go through. UA agent comes over and rolls her eyes at contact guy, saying "that looks fine." Yes, I was the guy with an oversized bag. My bad. But does the guy who checks if we are in the right security line have authority to be a bag gatekeeper? |
Originally Posted by wxguy
(Post 25767562)
No, they don't.
I once had a clearly-compliant bag with me and was challenged by a vendor line monitor to go back to the counter and check it. I just kept walking. She yelled at me, "Do you want to fly today?" I replied, "Do you want a job tomorrow?" I approached the TSA ID checker and he smiled :D |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 25767746)
UA should have denied OP boarding with the non-compliant bag.
Turning people back at the checkpoint makes sense but, making sense is against FT rules. Would like to see some of the contractors file whistleblower complaints with FAA about an incident such as this. Clearly a violation of UA's policy and thus FAA rules. The contractor gets a piece of the fine and UA maybe starts telling its own employees not to interfere. at many airports, you can buy full suitcases post security. But as i said early, I am first to admit my carry on was larger than sizer. |
Originally Posted by riphamilton
(Post 25767633)
this was at EWR, correct? it's been reported on FT that it happens there all the time.
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Originally Posted by zrs70
(Post 25767781)
What is also tells me is that, as much as we all want consistency, discretion makes sense.
:rolleyes: And then there will be all the complaints about the "kettles" and no room for bags in the overheads. Even though it is the elites rewriting the rules in their own favor when convenient.
Originally Posted by zrs70
(Post 25767030)
I almost never have more than one bag, and my second bag was a rolling briefcase.
:rolleyes: :td: :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by zrs70
(Post 25767781)
at many airports, you can buy full suitcases post security.
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