Any announcement on PQD requirements for 2016 or any other 2016 MP changes?
Oct 29, 2015, 3:57 pm
#76
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This is what I think will get the FF programs in trouble. When someone figures out that UA (in this case) is essentially giving a kick back from business money for personal use. Make an employer pay for INTL biz/GF and we'll upgrade you on all your personal flights. In most industries, that would get you fired and maybe even put in jail. Accumulating miles is one thing. Getting upgrades for being a FF are another level. GS becomes almost a quid-pro-quo due to the high level of correlation.
He fly's GF because its cheaper than charter and he wants privacy and sleep as when he gets to the client in distress he might not get any sleep for 2+ days
But yeah... agree it would be a dodgy thing otherwise....
Oct 30, 2015, 8:29 am
#77
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Related to the levels and reducing the head count of elites, we often talk about bequeathed GSers, but are there anointed 1Ks and Plats? Sometimes I talk to other people in BG1, not in F, that seem like they don't fly enough, especially on UA. To me, I have to have about 70% travel with about three TATL/TPACs to hit 1K- and that is based in DEN where pretty much everything is a good haul away.
Are raising the bar on one hand and gifting out with the other?
Are raising the bar on one hand and gifting out with the other?
Maybe the problem with 1K is that it's being given out somewhere like candy?
TBH, I wish AA or DL had nonstops IAD/DEN. I would definitely give them a try next year. I hear such nice things about the AA elite program.
I hear folks saying no way they're going to up the PQD rates or other things, but I can't believe anyone thinks MileagePlus is going anywhere positive.
Oct 30, 2015, 9:06 am
#78
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Oct 30, 2015, 9:23 am
#79
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And the right way to think about this is person-trips, not persons. One hopes these 1Ks end up with people who don't use the status that much, in which case this issue is a yawner. My impression is that we're flooded with natural 1Ks like myself, while United dilutes benefits.
Oct 30, 2015, 10:05 am
#80
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f status "wallet candy."
Oct 30, 2015, 10:32 pm
#81
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The PQD bump was announced on Nov. 13, 2014.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...6k-9k-12k.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...6k-9k-12k.html
Oct 31, 2015, 7:11 am
#82
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Being mostly IAD/DEN/BOS, my CPU rate is in the single digits.
I took some time off from flying, but remember 1K in the late 90s even. It was nothing like this. Nothing at all. Heck, old Premier Executive got much better upgrade rates than what we see today. I can't see anything but TOD and GS causing that, but I guess the amount of pax may be way way up and capacity planning has gotten that razor thin.
Don't kid yourselves anyone - in a perfect world to UA, there would never be an unsold FC seat. Their goals are met when there are ZERO CPUs. I'd be a lot happier if RPUs/GPUs worked worth a damn though. I'm trying to get to 150k for those extra 2 of each - and I'm really wondering if it's a mistake.
I took some time off from flying, but remember 1K in the late 90s even. It was nothing like this. Nothing at all. Heck, old Premier Executive got much better upgrade rates than what we see today. I can't see anything but TOD and GS causing that, but I guess the amount of pax may be way way up and capacity planning has gotten that razor thin.
Don't kid yourselves anyone - in a perfect world to UA, there would never be an unsold FC seat. Their goals are met when there are ZERO CPUs. I'd be a lot happier if RPUs/GPUs worked worth a damn though. I'm trying to get to 150k for those extra 2 of each - and I'm really wondering if it's a mistake.
Oct 31, 2015, 7:34 am
#83
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I think this the principal reason, they said they were going to, and it seems they have accomplished it.
Oct 31, 2015, 7:38 am
#84
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This may, or may not affect them
Oct 31, 2015, 11:29 am
#85
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Yep, the last have dozen UA flights I took had no upgrades at all. And FC is usually cheaper now than flex Y.
Nov 3, 2015, 1:08 pm
#86
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Nov 10, 2015, 10:41 am
#87
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Stirring the pot a little bit, I viewed the source on the MyStatus page. I just qualified for Premier Platinum within the past few weeks (97 PQS) so the page tracks status towards 1K. The visible elements on the page (e.g. what I can see when I visit it) for qualification shows $12,000; however, hidden elements within the source reference "of $15,000", which makes me think they will hike it to $3,750 PQD for Silver, $7,500 PQD for Gold, $11,250 for Platinum, and $15,000 for 1K.
Still a rumor. It's not absolutely explicit within the source.
Still a rumor. It's not absolutely explicit within the source.
Nov 10, 2015, 10:46 am
#88
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Nov 10, 2015, 11:03 am
#89
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Stirring the pot a little bit, I viewed the source on the MyStatus page. I just qualified for Premier Platinum within the past few weeks (97 PQS) so the page tracks status towards 1K. The visible elements on the page (e.g. what I can see when I visit it) for qualification shows $12,000; however, hidden elements within the source reference "of $15,000", which makes me think they will hike it to $3,750 PQD for Silver, $7,500 PQD for Gold, $11,250 for Platinum, and $15,000 for 1K.
Still a rumor. It's not absolutely explicit within the source.
Still a rumor. It's not absolutely explicit within the source.
In addition, the class naming convention of "ftmc" leads me to believe that it is related to something with that acronym. Is there anybody smarter than me on United-related stuff that could think of a potential meaning of FTMC? Or maybe a $15K gate that already exists?
My guess, given the FT at the beginning, is an increased PQD amount for people who complain on FlyerTalk.
Nov 10, 2015, 11:09 am
#90
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FT makes me think frequent traveler, M makes me think mileage. The C, I have no idea what to do with. But this is purely speculation.
"MC" might also stand for "Mileage challenge"... again, speculation. That would make sense with the "days left", as for a challenge that would be a good thing to know, for yearly qualification most people can do the mental math on December 31st.