p.s. Operations Transitioning to EWR on October 25, 2015
Jun 16, 2015, 10:40 am
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This will increasing make *A flights at JFK O&D as there will be fewer convenient feeder flights operated by partners. NYC is a big O&D market, but some partners operate nonstop flights to/from some rather exotic destinations that aren't easily served via other routes.
Jun 16, 2015, 10:40 am
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Sad 
Always enjoyed flying to SFO/LAX via JFK to get p.s. service. EWR just isn't as convenient.
Always enjoyed flying to SFO/LAX via JFK to get p.s. service. EWR just isn't as convenient.
Jun 16, 2015, 10:43 am
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Getting to/from Newark from Midtown Manhattan is a disaster. They are going to lose a decent chunk of customers
Jun 16, 2015, 10:43 am
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Jun 16, 2015, 10:45 am
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If I were still living full time in NYC after this I say good riddance to JFK, was much more of a hassle getting there from my place (Astor Place) than to EWR. The lounge was nothing special compared to at EWR and the terminal was fairly dumpy.
Was already looking at some TATL flights to GPU and not finding West Coast-EU space it makes for a better route if having to connect in the east coast that you can go SFO/LAX-EWR-EU in a flat bed instead of a recliner for the TCON.
Have you never heard of the AirTrain from NYP?
Was already looking at some TATL flights to GPU and not finding West Coast-EU space it makes for a better route if having to connect in the east coast that you can go SFO/LAX-EWR-EU in a flat bed instead of a recliner for the TCON.
Have you never heard of the AirTrain from NYP?
Jun 16, 2015, 10:45 am
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Was there a crew base at JFK? Will there be?
I wonder if any of the *A carriers at JFK will leave for EWR. Quite a few - AC, CA, AI, NH, OZ, OS, AV, SN, CM, MS, BR, LO, LH, SQ, SA, LX, TK ( http://www.staralliance.com/en/servi...on/airport/jfk ).
I wonder if any of the *A carriers at JFK will leave for EWR. Quite a few - AC, CA, AI, NH, OZ, OS, AV, SN, CM, MS, BR, LO, LH, SQ, SA, LX, TK ( http://www.staralliance.com/en/servi...on/airport/jfk ).
Jun 16, 2015, 10:46 am
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so one of two things happen.
All flights are PS, in which capacity between hubs is a nightmare, or
There are other flights, then a lot of the cost premium disappears.
Either way - I wouldn't be shocked if UA eliminated PS in a few years when they find that they lost a LOT of business from NYC customers and can't sustain PS on hub-to-hub feeders
edit: so - UA continues its retreat to fortress hubs, to turn back into the same sCO that originally needed a merger to survive because it couldn't last on fortress hubs... interesting strategy
All flights are PS, in which capacity between hubs is a nightmare, or
There are other flights, then a lot of the cost premium disappears.
Either way - I wouldn't be shocked if UA eliminated PS in a few years when they find that they lost a LOT of business from NYC customers and can't sustain PS on hub-to-hub feeders
edit: so - UA continues its retreat to fortress hubs, to turn back into the same sCO that originally needed a merger to survive because it couldn't last on fortress hubs... interesting strategy
Jun 16, 2015, 10:47 am
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t. There are trains and there is a bus every 15 minutes. And besides, getting from midtown to JFK is no walk in the park.Regarding the announcement, I always expected UA to add an EWR p.s. route, not to move the whole thing to EWR.
Jun 16, 2015, 10:48 am
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Wow, no presence at all at JFK. I wish they would switch the name of the airline to CO. This airline is returning to pmCO in its entirety. 3rd rate airline, flying into 3rd rate airports.
Jun 16, 2015, 10:48 am
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One of the nice things about the P.S. product was guaranteed decent wifi. The 757 fleet ex-P.S. is a big question mark. Will that Wifi upgrade get completed prior to the closure of JFK, or should business travelers who want Wifi book basically anybody else?
Jun 16, 2015, 10:50 am
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United plans to swap its slots at Kennedy with Delta Air Lines Inc. and take Delta’s slots at Newark.
Yea... because those slots at EWR are just as valuable as JFK.
Yea... because those slots at EWR are just as valuable as JFK.
Jun 16, 2015, 10:51 am
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Add me to the list of people who are disappointed. EWR isn't bad (most of the time, except Terminal A...that's bad all the time) but it's not much of a Star Hub. This cuts off access to a lot of airlines and flights out of JFK on other Star carriers. And it removes an airport that's easy to get to from the east side, from Queens, Westchester, Connecticut etc. Very, very disappointing.
Jun 16, 2015, 10:54 am
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Pretty much. I just saw in the schedule today that DL has upgauged their large RJs to mainline on some SJC-LAX and OAK-LAX flights -- both routes that UA gave up.
It's shocking to see some of these decisions, but if as an airline, they can't compete, you can't really blame them.
Now to see if they'll rebook my upcoming PS flights onto AA, or if I should take a refund...
Jun 16, 2015, 10:54 am
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What *A partners currently have EWR flights? SAS I know, and SQ used to fly from EWR as well as JFK. I would guess that Copa belongs on the list. Any others? Does AC even fly into EWR?