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PHL-FRA-AMS shows award availability, but not PHL-FRA
I am searching for 2 award tickets from PHL to FRA on 5/15/2014.
When I search for PHL to AMS on that date I see a routing PHL-FRA-AMS. However, if I just search PHL-FRA I don't see anything. Any idea what is going on? |
No saver awards or no award space at all?
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No saver award space for PHL-FRA, but saver for PHL-FRA-AMS
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Sounds like married segments.
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Book the double connection, ticket, then call back to drop the 2nd segment
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22374367)
Sounds like married segments.
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Originally Posted by evthu
(Post 22374383)
I see. I have never heard that term before. Can you explain more?
If you search FT (or Google), you will find lots more about married segments. |
Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22374409)
It's exactly what you found. United is willing to sell a ticket from PHL-AMS via FRA, but not a flight simple from PHL-FRA. Airline fares are based on demand between the endpoints without regard for intermediate points - more people want to fly from PHL-FRA than from PHL-AMS, so inventory is adjusted appropriately to make it more expensive to fly PHL-FRA, and you can only get the cheap PHL-FRA flight if you continue on to a "less desirable" city. It doesn't normally apply to awards, but this is not unheard of.
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Originally Posted by evthu
(Post 22374424)
Interesting. I had heard of hidden city ticketing for paid tickets but did not think it was a thing for award tickets.
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22374409)
It's exactly what you found. United is willing to sell a ticket from PHL-AMS via FRA, but not a flight simple from PHL-FRA. Airline fares are based on demand between the endpoints without regard for intermediate points - more people want to fly from PHL-FRA than from PHL-AMS, so inventory is adjusted appropriately to make it more expensive to fly PHL-FRA, and you can only get the cheap PHL-FRA flight if you continue on to a "less desirable" city. It doesn't normally apply to awards, but this is not unheard of.
If you search FT (or Google), you will find lots more about married segments. This is either an IT issue, or phantom availability. If it's the former, it can easily be booked by calling. |
Originally Posted by star_world
(Post 22374444)
This is categorically false. Married segments do not apply to *A award inventory.
But I will agree that it could well be YASB (yet another SHARES bug). (And you should note that I specifically said it sounds like married segments. I intentionally didn't say it definitely was.) |
Originally Posted by star_world
(Post 22374444)
This is categorically false. Married segments do not apply to *A award inventory.
This is either an IT issue, or phantom availability. If it's the former, it can easily be booked by calling. As for hidden city, that's not really related. That has to do with the way fares are filed, while married segments are an inventory-based revenue management tool. |
Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22374456)
Maybe they're not supposed to be, but it has happened before.
But I will agree that it could well be YASB (yet another SHARES bug). (And you should note that I specifically said it sounds like married segments. I intentionally didn't say it definitely was.) |
Married segments on award tickets?
KOA-DEN-EWR shows XN9, X9
When searched separately, the same DEN-EWR segment shows XN0, X0 Nevertheless, the entire KOA-DEN-EWR itinerary successfully ticketed in XN Never seen this before on UA. |
Saver Awards only on Certain Routings?
Never remember having this problem.
IAH - ORD no saver awards IAH - ORD - LHR saver available Confirmed with agent on the phone only possible to book this way. |
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