Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Posted 14 March 2015
NOTE: The overwhelming consensus is that preflight PQD/PQM/RDM information on an itinerary is frequently wrong for inexplicable reasons, but it being wrong on the itinerary has no bearing on whether correct PQD/PQM/RDM will post to your MP account after flying a segment. So don't worry if things look wrong pre-flight; it is only necessary to contact MP if post-flight posting is incorrect.
Archive thread: Incorrect/Ineligible projected earning information showing on my itinerary {Archive}
Hi everyone,
Thank you all for your comments regarding our display of MileagePlus earning information.
We are aware that there are some rare instances, where international surcharge is being excluding from the display of award miles and PQD when viewing your upcoming reservation on United.com. We expect to have the earnings display corrected shortly. Please rest assured that the final earnings reflected in your Account summary once you have flown will include the surcharge.
-UA Insider
Thank you all for your comments regarding our display of MileagePlus earning information.
We are aware that there are some rare instances, where international surcharge is being excluding from the display of award miles and PQD when viewing your upcoming reservation on United.com. We expect to have the earnings display corrected shortly. Please rest assured that the final earnings reflected in your Account summary once you have flown will include the surcharge.
-UA Insider
Archive thread: Incorrect/Ineligible projected earning information showing on my itinerary {Archive}
Incorrect/Ineligible projected earning information showing on my itinerary {Archive}
#751
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There's no need to start rumors. If UA really wanted the PQD to be 20K, they'd just have made it 20K.
#752
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I have had past instances where I did a change but the the PQD came through correctly.
Currently I have (for the first time) two upcoming flights where the PQM and PQD have gone to zero but am tracking on my own spreadsheet. Others have reassured me it will come through correctly and if not to call.
In this case the PQD on the original receipt does not match the airfare. I think it is harder me to argue the PQD will not be the PQD amount that is on the original receipt. I would be happy to be proved wrong but decided to cancel the reservation instead. I will watching with interest when people report back on what was the eventual PQD when the receipt and reservation differ to the amount paid for the "airfare".
#753
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The only times I have had a PQD posting issue has been in irrops and where the number of coupons was changed.
#754
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#755
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Yep, that's are another known cause. There are clear a few corner cases for incorrect PQD posting but UA has done a better job in posting PQDs than most of us expected at the beginning. But for some reason, UA cannot do it for the receipts -- which if not what you expected are more likely wrong.
#756
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Yes, @jsloan is correct...here's the relevant info from https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...rnational.html
This is probably the reason why I was confused. Most of my (partner's) tickets are flown on LH & NH but issued by United (016) and always get 2x PQM for P,Z,C,D & 3x for J
#757
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 3
UA accruals off
I have a trip booked where I am on the cusp of earning MileagePlus Gold but looking in my account at the receipt, it shows a different accrual for the trip than the flight information.
On my receipt, it shows that the PQD and PQM are way higher than the price I paid for the ticket. But on the ticket info on the app and site, it shows a more correct one.
Based on the price I paid, I think the receipt's info is off, but can I use it as a complaint if they don't give me those accruals after the flight? Obviously I'd like to get the number that is quoted on the receipt. Has this ever happened that they granted different accruals on accident?
On my receipt, it shows that the PQD and PQM are way higher than the price I paid for the ticket. But on the ticket info on the app and site, it shows a more correct one.
Based on the price I paid, I think the receipt's info is off, but can I use it as a complaint if they don't give me those accruals after the flight? Obviously I'd like to get the number that is quoted on the receipt. Has this ever happened that they granted different accruals on accident?
#758
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I have a trip booked where I am on the cusp of earning MileagePlus Gold but looking in my account at the receipt, it shows a different accrual for the trip than the flight information.
On my receipt, it shows that the PQD and PQM are way higher than the price I paid for the ticket. But on the ticket info on the app and site, it shows a more correct one.
Based on the price I paid, I think the receipt's info is off, but can I use it as a complaint if they don't give me those accruals after the flight? Obviously I'd like to get the number that is quoted on the receipt. Has this ever happened that they granted different accruals on accident?
On my receipt, it shows that the PQD and PQM are way higher than the price I paid for the ticket. But on the ticket info on the app and site, it shows a more correct one.
Based on the price I paid, I think the receipt's info is off, but can I use it as a complaint if they don't give me those accruals after the flight? Obviously I'd like to get the number that is quoted on the receipt. Has this ever happened that they granted different accruals on accident?
You should rely on the correct numbers for your calculation. If you get the other numbers, it's gravy. Complaining would be a waste of your time.
#759
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It is quite common to see errors in UA's predictive calculations. Most of the time the flights post correctly.
#760
Join Date: Oct 2018
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I see, so the receipt calculations aren't locked in any way. Because it seems like they gave me a fare class that's off on the receipt hence the higher accruals.
#761
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Now, you need to give us more details. What fare class you booked? What fare class is showing on your receipt? Are you flying on United or a Star Alliance flight?
#762
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Ahh, thanks. I'm flying Swiss through a United issued ticket. This is the itinerary: Day, DateFlightClassDeparture City and TimeArrival City and TimeAircraftMeal
Sat, 01DEC18 UA9725 K SAN FRANCISCO, CA (SFO) 7:50 PM ZURICH, SWITZERLAND (ZRH) 3:45 PM (02DEC) Meal
Flight operated by SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIR LINES.
If this is an originating flight on your itinerary, please check in at the SWISS INTERNATIONAL ticket counter.Mon, 03DEC18LX968KZURICH, SWITZERLAND (ZRH) 1:40 PMBERLIN, GERMANY (TXL - TEGEL) 3:05 PMA-320Flight operated by SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIR LINES LTD doing business as SWISS.
Wed, 19DEC18 SK4724 T BERLIN, GERMANY (TXL - TEGEL) 6:25 PMOSLO, NORWAY (OSL) 8:00 PM 737-800
Flight operated by SCANDINAVIAN AIRLINES SYSTEM (SAS).
Sat, 29DEC18LX1211KOSLO, NORWAY (OSL) 12:45 PMZURICH, SWITZERLAND (ZRH) 3:10 PMFlight operated by SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIR LINES LTD doing business as SWISS.
Sun, 30DEC18 LX38 K ZURICH, SWITZERLAND (ZRH) 1:15 PMSAN FRANCISCO, CA (SFO) 4:15 PM
Flight operated by SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIR LINES LTD doing business as SWISS.
And this is what the receipt shows: DateFlightFrom/ToAward MilesPQMPQSPQD
12/1/2018 9725 San Francisco, CA (SFO)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)35546584105078
12/3/2018 968 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)25065000358
12/19/2018 4724 Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)-Oslo, Norway (OSL)32622680466
12/29/20181211 Oslo, Norway (OSL)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)60698870867
12/30/2018 38 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-San Francisco, CA (SFO)27617584105707
Award Miles PQM PQS PQD
MileagePlus Accrual totals:75000 13337 Ineligible 12476
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Oct 15, 2018 at 7:02 pm Reason: formatting
#763
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And this is what the receipt shows: DateFlightFrom/ToAward MilesPQMPQSPQD
12/1/2018 9725 San Francisco, CA (SFO)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)35546584105078
12/3/2018 968 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)25065000358
12/19/2018 4724 Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)-Oslo, Norway (OSL)32622680466
12/29/20181211 Oslo, Norway (OSL)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)60698870867
12/30/2018 38 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-San Francisco, CA (SFO)27617584105707
Award Miles PQM PQS PQD
MileagePlus Accrual totals:75000 13337 Ineligible 12476
12/1/2018 9725 San Francisco, CA (SFO)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)35546584105078
12/3/2018 968 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)25065000358
12/19/2018 4724 Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)-Oslo, Norway (OSL)32622680466
12/29/20181211 Oslo, Norway (OSL)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)60698870867
12/30/2018 38 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-San Francisco, CA (SFO)27617584105707
Award Miles PQM PQS PQD
MileagePlus Accrual totals:75000 13337 Ineligible 12476
Date Flight From/To - Award Miles PQM PQS PQD
12/1/2018 9725 San Francisco, CA (SFO)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH) - 35546 5841 0 5078
12/3/2018 968 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel) - 2506 500 0 358
12/19/2018 4724 Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)-Oslo, Norway (OSL) - 3262 268 0 466
12/29/20181211 Oslo, Norway (OSL)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH) - 6069 887 0 867
12/30/2018 38 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-San Francisco, CA (SFO) - 27617 5841 0 5707
Award Miles PQM PQS PQD
MileagePlus Accrual totals:75000 13337 Ineligible 12476
12/1/2018 9725 San Francisco, CA (SFO)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH) - 35546 5841 0 5078
12/3/2018 968 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel) - 2506 500 0 358
12/19/2018 4724 Berlin, Germany (TXL - Tegel)-Oslo, Norway (OSL) - 3262 268 0 466
12/29/20181211 Oslo, Norway (OSL)-Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH) - 6069 887 0 867
12/30/2018 38 Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH)-San Francisco, CA (SFO) - 27617 5841 0 5707
Award Miles PQM PQS PQD
MileagePlus Accrual totals:75000 13337 Ineligible 12476
Being on a K fare on LX, you'll only earn Award Miles at a rate of 25% compared to distance flown, and your T fare on SAS will only earn 50%. Your actual Award Miles earned should be ~3512, I think, but I believe that the displayed PQM total (13337) is correct, though. I have no idea if the PQD is correct, but if you paid $12K for that deep-discount economy ticket, I'd be very surprised!
#765
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I read about the last 30 pages but didnt see anything relative to my situation. Rebooked a one way yesterday via the 1k line due to the travel waiver in SFO, and new ticket shows no accrual information on .bomb or the United app.
Online under manage reservation, it just shows a bunch of dashes for “miles earned this trip, PQM, PQS, PQD.” Anyone experience this? Thanks for your help.
Online under manage reservation, it just shows a bunch of dashes for “miles earned this trip, PQM, PQS, PQD.” Anyone experience this? Thanks for your help.