halls120

There WILL be the occasional equipment substitution for the 777ER. It's inevitable.

"Everyone" isn't doing it. BA isn't. DL isn't. CX isn't. And as long as there are 18" Y seats available, that's where I'll take my business

MBS MillionMiler

Shouldn't be. Similar layout on the current pmUA international 777s.

I find the whole layout annoying...I don't understand why they can't have each row (all 8 seats) going in the same direction. All of the aisles will have the person across the way staring directly at you, an aisle width away. To me, this is the most annoying part of the current pmUA configuration...It's that way on the 767, 777 and the forward LD 747 cabin--and the reason I try to fly only on the 747, upstairs or in row 10. I hate having people stare at me or vice versa the whole flight (or at least the feeling thereof).

mduell

The partition is where the footwells are. They may or may not still have TVs on the partition (as they do now), I read some comments that said they were going all-PDE.

These planes won't be doing more than about 9h.

The 77W, OTOH, will be doing 14h+ trips packed just like this: 28J between door 1&2, and 10 abreast in the back.

The reversed-across-the-aisle actually minimizes staring at each other. If they were the same direction across row 1, you'd be staring at the person in row 2, a much smaller angle away from straight ahead than the person across the aisle from you in row 1.

halls120

Nine hours of agony if the seat next to you is occupied.

LASUA1K

I'm pretty sure DL will be next. No way around it really. The 777 goes from a great aircraft in Y, to an awful one. I'm not defending UA, but this is the new norm. I'm not connecting in ATL to fly DL, and I'm sure others near a UA hub won't either.

Hopefully the A350 will be a more comfortable config.

Kacee

I'm not talking about Golds and Silvers . . . with that J/Y ratio, no one is going to get upgrades. And F will be difficult to purchase in the discounted buckets (P, Z) anywhere within a month or two of departure.

narvik

Hear, hear!

Although, IMO I'd probably rephrase it to:


"The 777 goes from a decent aircraft in Y, to an awful one."

mduell

It will fall in the middle at 9 abreast. It's narrower than the 777 and wider than the 787.

10 abreast isn't really viable except on configurations like the charter carriers who stuff 9 abreast in the A330 or 8 in the 767.

Treeskier

Agree on both points - take your business elsewhere is the smart move. If anyone cannot see the obvious, there is a group at United working to really screw over the frequent and infrequent traveler. With respect to the frequent traveler it was painfully obvious with the new upgrade policy in January 2016 which prioritized upgrades based on fare price first, status second. That policy was abruptly reversed in February 2016. This airline is out of control. They are becoming the Spirit Airlines of the long haul carriers right before my eyes. I have been flying AA out of Denver exclusively for the last 7 weeks as a trial Ex Plat, and it has been an enlightening if not completely wonderful experience. My advice to UA FF's, RUN, don't walk to either DL or AA. The Management team at UA is a mess and we are suffering the consequences. Those who believe Oscar Munoz will restore credibility, good luck with that. He is back now and this press release confirming the seating change came out today. I have absolutely no confidence he can or will fix this mess. I invested 1,940,000 miles and wish I had quit after the merger (my mistake) which has been a disaster. With this recent public confirmation, I am now 100% certain I will no longer fly this train wreck. In fact if I have to connect through Damascus Syria or Beirut to get from Denver to Chicago as long as it's not on United, I will absolutely do so.

JVPhoto

Wasn't it discussed ad naseum and came to pass that it seemed you were the only person who thought this based on what GA mentioned?

BEYFlyer

Beirut is beautiful this time of year. You can still go up to the mountains and do some skiing, too!!!

Austin787

So because of this new seating configuration, you're suggesting people take their business to AA who is also changing their 777s to 10 across?
And if you think UA management is a mess, just wait until you experience the USdbaAA management version of "changes you will like"

REPUBLIC757

I notice EWR-LAX has a 772 on it when I randomly checked it on 7/6. I wonder if this is one of those birds?

Any confirmation from UA or other sources about AVOD? Verdict seems to be hazy and/or unconfirmed.

cerealmarketer

Sounds like a blast from the past...the mid to late 90s when UA last had a big domestic feeder network.

The 747-100 was the high density bird of the day.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/813468-post3.html

"The 747-100 is also flown at 3:35pm from ORD to SFO. Try and avoid this at all costs. 42 F + 408 Coach make it very difficult to upgrade even as a 1K (clears morning of departure) This flight then goes on to honululu"

rmadisonwi

My first reaction to reading that was, "Wow, UA was still flying the 747-100 fairly recently."

My second reaction was, "Wait...1999 was 17 years ago!"

(Third reaction was..."Flyertalk was around in 1999?")