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Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers

Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22" (22 cm x 35 cm x 56 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"

Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17" (22 cm x 25 cm x 43 cm)
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"

Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer

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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
 Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo
 Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster
 Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes.
 Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike
 Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes:
 Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200
 Delsey Helium Sky 21" 01/2015 LHR secretsea18
 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full
 eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit
 Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti
 Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH
 Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO
 Lat56 RW01 2 wheel 05/2016 AUS txirish
 Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded)
 Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded)
 Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd
 Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable
 Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor
 Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP
 Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP
 Rimowa Lufthansa 747-8 IATA 08/2014 IAD N1120A
 Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN
 Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there
 Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly
 Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare
 Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full)
 TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full
 TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies
 TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full
 TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed
 TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing
 TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed
 TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too
 TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed
 TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty
 TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty
 TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with
 TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris
 TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman
 TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded
 TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1"
 TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan
 Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty
 Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare
 Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer


Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"

Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer


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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
 Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
 Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x
 eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014
 Backpack EB2146-16
 Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo
 Red Oxx CPA 12/2014 YYZ N1120A
 Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint
 Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu
 Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer
 Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right"
 Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels
 LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside

Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers

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Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
 Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width
 Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall
 Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship
 Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship
 Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.

Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf

Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.

Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.

A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
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Old Jan 4, 15, 10:06 am
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Carry-on Items That Meets United's Sizer Box? Enforcement?

Not that I think anybody else on the planet even has one, but another bag that does not fit the sizer - Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller. Just a hair too thick, and a hair too long. I can just squeeze it into the AA sizer, but not the UA sizer.

Too bad, too, as I love that bag.
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Does anyone have experience with the Tumi Alpha 2 International Carryon? While the dimensions meet United's rules (9x14x22), I just recently got this bag and have flown 2 segments on a 73G in F where the bag would not fit at all in the bins over row 1, and row 3 was already full, so I ended up putting it sideways over row 2. Is this due to the curvature of the plane or just the fact that the bins on the 73G are older? I've had no problem with the 738's 9's and 320's. I seem to end up on a lot of 73G's and 319's so I'm wondering if this is going to be a recurring problem. My old bag that was the same dimensions (but did not have the hard type sides like the Tumi) fit in there, probably because it was able to compress. Thoughts?
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Old Jan 4, 15, 10:28 am
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Does anyone have experience with the Tumi Alpha 2 International Carryon? While the dimensions meet United's rules (9x14x22), I just recently got this bag and have flown 2 segments on a 73G in F where the bag would not fit at all in the bins over row 1, and row 3 was already full, so I ended up putting it sideways over row 2. Is this due to the curvature of the plane or just the fact that the bins on the 73G are older? I've had no problem with the 738's 9's and 320's. I seem to end up on a lot of 73G's and 319's so I'm wondering if this is going to be a recurring problem. My old bag that was the same dimensions (but did not have the hard type sides like the Tumi) fit in there, probably because it was able to compress. Thoughts?
This is my primary bag and it easily fits the United sizer (it is actually an inch shorter then it needs to be).

These specific United airplanes have smaller bins in the front of first class and bags that fit the United sizer will not fit these bins properly. Other airlines extend the same size bins into the isle further but United shortens the bins as the airplane curves toward the front. Personally I don't hit this very often and don't think it is a reason to switch to a different bag. Of course this is one of the reasons people line up in group one 40 minutes early...
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Old Jan 26, 15, 12:02 pm
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Aggressive enforcement this morning at SFO

This morning at the Premier security checkpoint, an Airserv employee was aggressively enforcing the sizer requirement, to the point that she made the average TSO seem polite and docile by comparison.
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Anyone try the Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 2 21" yet? Looking to buy new carry-on bags for the wife and I and want to be sure the updated version maintains the same compliance as the original.
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Anyone try the Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 2 21" yet? Looking to buy new carry-on bags for the wife and I and want to be sure the updated version maintains the same compliance as the original.
That just happens to be my new bag. Fits fine, if snugly!

FYI, on a few aircraft -- maybe Airbus 3xx, if memory serves? -- it only fits in the overhead bins wheels out. First time that's ever happened to me.
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That just happens to be my new bag. Fits fine, if snugly!

FYI, on a few aircraft -- maybe Airbus 3xx, if memory serves? -- it only fits in the overhead bins wheels out. First time that's ever happened to me.
Great, thanks for the reply!
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The luggage works stealth series that many pilots use is a solid bag, and also can be serviced by the mfg to last a lifetime. They fit everywhere, even in the crj700 bins as well.
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The luggage works stealth series that many pilots use is a solid bag, and also can be serviced by the mfg to last a lifetime. They fit everywhere, even in the crj700 bins as well.
Solid is right! The bags alone weigh in the neighborhood of 14-15 lbs. Great for durability, not great for bad backs and weight limits. Note that many lightweight bags are literally half the weight, some even lighter. It all depends on what your use case is and what you want out of the bag.
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Stealth 22 (like Andiamo) for consumers is now good for camping with a trailer. I adore Andiamo, have a few of their bags, but today no airline will allow me to board a plane with them. For those of us who do fly with LH and/or their partners, we are stuck with (Handgepäck) IATA 21.5" and 8 kg max. (17.6 lbs)
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Yes, they are a tad heavy. I'll have to weigh mine empty to see the actual. The durability is outstanding though, mines logged thousands of miles over 15 years, and it's still going strong. Like I said above, it's one of the few bags that can fit in the older crj700 bins.

Luggageworks has a new light weight plastic option, but I don't know much about it. I think it's Stealth light or something..

The alternate to a regular Luggageworks Stealth that I would recommend is Travel Pro. If you look at most flight crews, nearly all the flight attendants have Travel Pro's, so you know they have to be decent. I have a Travel Pro Flight Crew4 as well, and while it doesn't feel as strong as my LW stealth, it's been a good bag with no issues, and fits the sizer.

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Solid is right! The bags alone weigh in the neighborhood of 14-15 lbs. Great for durability, not great for bad backs and weight limits. Note that many lightweight bags are literally half the weight, some even lighter. It all depends on what your use case is and what you want out of the bag.
Fine for domestic travel, where carryon is seldom weighed but in EU or ME you can easily get zapped for overweight carryon.
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Sizing gate-checked bags?

This week in EWR I asked for a gate check tag from the GA for my roll-aboard when I went to board. He told me to put my bags in the sizer. I gave him a quizical look and asked "Why? It's being gate checked.... I know it's too big for this plane (ERJ145)..." He just said, "Put the bag in the sizer!" and as I started messing with my bags, he says, "We'll just check it to your destination baggage claim." Then I got them in the sizer and said, "Why? They both (roll-aboard & backpack) fit fine? Does this mean you'll let me take it on the plane?" He told me "Close the expander!" (the zipper that lets the bag get about 1" thicker... it was open, but not really needed). No idea why that would make any difference to the ramp guys....

Is this a new policy, to start sizing all the roll-aboards that are being gate checked anyway? First time this happened to me on UA.... F9 started doing that, so they could tell people their stuff wouldn't fit and zing them with a $100 baggage fee... Their sizers were a good 6" smaller than the overheads on their RJ's (let alone the A319 I usually flew on)... revenue generators I guess.

Is UA headed the F9 route, nickel and dimeing passengers for everything they bring on the plane with them? I was on an almost $1,000 ticket this week too... just didn't sit well with me given the revenue.
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This week in EWR I asked for a gate check tag from the GA for my roll-aboard when I went to board. He told me to put my bags in the sizer. I gave him a quizical look and asked "Why? It's being gate checked.... I know it's too big for this plane (ERJ145)..." He just said, "Put the bag in the sizer!" and as I started messing with my bags, he says, "We'll just check it to your destination baggage claim." Then I got them in the sizer and said, "Why? They both (roll-aboard & backpack) fit fine? Does this mean you'll let me take it on the plane?" He told me "Close the expander!" (the zipper that lets the bag get about 1" thicker... it was open, but not really needed). No idea why that would make any difference to the ramp guys....

Is this a new policy, to start sizing all the roll-aboards that are being gate checked anyway? ...
this has been reported from time to time in this thread or its predecessor -- but appears rare.

Originally Posted by holland View Post
... First time this happened to me on UA.... F9 started doing that, so they could tell people their stuff wouldn't fit and zing them with a $100 baggage fee... Their sizers were a good 6" smaller than the overheads on their RJ's (let alone the A319 I usually flew on)... revenue generators I guess.

Is UA headed the F9 route, nickel and dimeing passengers for everything they bring on the plane with them? I was on an almost $1,000 ticket this week too... just didn't sit well with me given the revenue.
The UA sizer's are 1" in all dimensions larger that the long published WxDxH dimensions (but UA did drop the total sum dimension option) so don't think this is a new revenue drive. Long discussion/debate in the predecessor thread

The nickel and dimeing is what all the domestic airlines are doing.
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Old Mar 30, 15, 4:28 pm
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I have found a Samsonite rolling bag which might fit personal item: http://www.amazon.com/Samsonite-Savo.../dp/B00GRLY14W claims 9"x10"x18" and a user claims the actual measurements are 10"x11.5"x18" -- but since it's not a hardshell, one would actually need to fit this into a United sizer to see whether it fits. It's the closest I have ever seen.
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