Check Your UA Itineraries for Schedule Changes and what to do after one [Archive]
#1936
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,218
There is one more flight after the 7pm flight (arrives after 8pm) which is 10.30pm which arrives at 11.30pm. Makes for a very, very long day but four flights before 3pm and then nothing until 7pm. If I am too late for the 3pm flight connection I generally uber (which will not help with the PQD next year!)
Usually easier to connect through SFO (providing the weather is good), IAH (providing no t-storms/hurricanes as been delayed by those connecting through IAH), DEN (provided no delays for wind which I have been caught by).
It is quite easy leaving SAN but coming home TPAC or TATL is stressful.
#1937
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: Mileage Plus 1K; Marriott Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 6,355
Had a 30 minute change on the LAX - SFO leg of a return to YVR from MEL. Not looking forward to a double connection in LAX and SFO. Able to change to the UX LAX -YVR nonstop based on this. Happy.
#1938
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: United Global Services, Amtrak Select Executive
Posts: 4,098
With a >3hr change in arrival time, they shouldn't have given you a hard time changing your routing and forcing saver availability in the way you requested to get you there closer to your original scheduled arrival.
#1939
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: UA Plat 2MM. DL Plat, AS MVP
Posts: 12,752
Protocol for refund when 5 minute schedule change create illegal connection
Dear all,
curious us as to the protocol... I had a legal (though barely) connection for future AMS-ORD-IAH travel. Last week’s sched change of only 5 minutes created an illegal connection.
In truth, I was happy to refund, as my plans were in flux. UA at first said the change is too small to initiate a refund and instead offered a different connection out of ORD. I pressed it, citing the new times wouldn’t work.
Agent escalted to sup, who declined request. I asked to speak with sup. Was on hold for a while. Agent came back, having gotten authorization from a different sup.
All worked out for me. But it did make me curious.
If a sched change forces the passenger to a new flight, what is in the authority of a lower level agent to accommodate a refund?
curious us as to the protocol... I had a legal (though barely) connection for future AMS-ORD-IAH travel. Last week’s sched change of only 5 minutes created an illegal connection.
In truth, I was happy to refund, as my plans were in flux. UA at first said the change is too small to initiate a refund and instead offered a different connection out of ORD. I pressed it, citing the new times wouldn’t work.
Agent escalted to sup, who declined request. I asked to speak with sup. Was on hold for a while. Agent came back, having gotten authorization from a different sup.
All worked out for me. But it did make me curious.
If a sched change forces the passenger to a new flight, what is in the authority of a lower level agent to accommodate a refund?
#1941
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,169
UA at first said the change is too small to initiate a refund and instead offered a different connection out of ORD... Agent escalted to sup, who declined request. I asked to speak with sup. Was on hold for a while. Agent came back, having gotten authorization from a different sup. All worked out for me.
#1942
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: No. California
Programs: UA MP HH LTD
Posts: 2,040
Undesirable schedule changes.
Had SFO-MIA and ATL-SFO booked on one PNR (traveling by car in between) for next July. Both flights were non-stops. Now, UA has stopped doing the SFO-MIA non-stop (at least during non-peak cruise season), and is trying to put us on SFO-ORD-MIA, getting in about 6 hours later (after 10pm). This is far from desirable.
What are our options? Will UA allow, given the undesirability of the new schedule, us to cancel the SFO-MIA segment without penalty? Thinking of switching to AA, who still has a non-stop flight with similar hours to the old UA non-stop.
Will UA allow us to change to the SFO-FLL non-stop? It's arrival time isn't much better, but it is non-stop.
Likely will keep the ATL-SFO segment. The flight times work very well.
What are our options? Will UA allow, given the undesirability of the new schedule, us to cancel the SFO-MIA segment without penalty? Thinking of switching to AA, who still has a non-stop flight with similar hours to the old UA non-stop.
Will UA allow us to change to the SFO-FLL non-stop? It's arrival time isn't much better, but it is non-stop.
Likely will keep the ATL-SFO segment. The flight times work very well.
#1943
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canada
Programs: Star Alliance G*, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium,
Posts: 3,585
options
UA will definitely allow you to change and/or cancel. Not sure how you cancel & keep the ATL-SFO option BTW?
My best advice is find the best flight cnx. you want outbound and then call UA Customer Service & tell them what you want?
(Personally, I prefer cnx. in IAH, DEN or even EWR as ORD is a bit of a grunt!).
They will allow you to re-route to FLL. It is a bit further (40 mins) from the Miami cruise port. We have done both - but I agree MIA is preferable.
(BTW, I look at schedule changes as a way to improve my itin i.e. cancelling is the last option!)
My best advice is find the best flight cnx. you want outbound and then call UA Customer Service & tell them what you want?
(Personally, I prefer cnx. in IAH, DEN or even EWR as ORD is a bit of a grunt!).
They will allow you to re-route to FLL. It is a bit further (40 mins) from the Miami cruise port. We have done both - but I agree MIA is preferable.
(BTW, I look at schedule changes as a way to improve my itin i.e. cancelling is the last option!)
#1944
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,400
However, I agree that if SFO-FLL is an option, it would be no problem to switch to it.
#1945
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
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What are our options? Will UA allow, given the undesirability of the new schedule, us to cancel the SFO-MIA segment without penalty? Thinking of switching to AA, who still has a non-stop flight with similar hours to the old UA non-stop.
Will UA allow us to change to the SFO-FLL non-stop? It's arrival time isn't much better, but it is non-stop.
Likely will keep the ATL-SFO segment. The flight times work very well.
Will UA allow us to change to the SFO-FLL non-stop? It's arrival time isn't much better, but it is non-stop.
Likely will keep the ATL-SFO segment. The flight times work very well.
#1946
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: No. California
Programs: UA MP HH LTD
Posts: 2,040
Thanks everyone. Will go to work on this tomorrow.
#1947
Join Date: May 2016
Location: SLC
Programs: United Gold, Hilton Silver, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 768
I'm glad I make a habit of reading this forum. I made business-class award reservations for my wife and I to Paris and back from Rome several months ago for June. I was able to book Air Canada via Toronto. The only award flight I could get on the return required an overnight stay. This weekend I saw that the schedule had changed for my return flight, making the connection 2 hours longer. I thought it wouldn't hurt to try calling to see if I could change the reservation to same-day flights, despite the fact that there are no I class awards available. It took a while, but the premier desk rep was able to get me on a United flight via IAD, with the IAD-DEN portion on a 787. This saves me a day of vacation time, and saves me some money for an overnight stay in Toronto. Thanks go to a very helpful rep who went to bat for me! Now I just hope that my FCO-IAD flight gets switched into a Polaris 777 before June!
#1948
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: UA 1K (Million Miler). AA Gold (lifetime 1 Million). TK Elite Gold
Posts: 894
Schedule changes and rebooking
Hello. I was notified by email of multiple minor time changes on an itinerary in April 2019. I was offered of accepting or declining time changes.
As a 1K, I contacted web support as per email instructions. I was offered the option of itinerary change without fee due to schedule changes. The original routing was YYZ-IAD-SFO-SIN; to increase segment count, I suggested revised routing: YYZ-EWR-IAD-LAX-SFO-SIN giving agent specific flight numbers on same date of travel. After some minutes, the agent advised me that despite availability of new routing in same fare basis, I was unable to change to my suggested routing because this was "not the most direct routing" for YYZ to SIN.
I had never heard this excuse and am wondering whether web support just didn't want to reissue this ticket originally paid for in foreign currency. Any thoughts?
Also, a safe and healthy New Year to all here.
OP here. In looking at fare rules, it appears that maximum 3 transfers in USA are allowed in addition to 1 transfer in Canada and 2 transfers in Area 3. If I remove 1 segment in USA to my proposed itinerary change, might I get a positive approval from web support?
As a 1K, I contacted web support as per email instructions. I was offered the option of itinerary change without fee due to schedule changes. The original routing was YYZ-IAD-SFO-SIN; to increase segment count, I suggested revised routing: YYZ-EWR-IAD-LAX-SFO-SIN giving agent specific flight numbers on same date of travel. After some minutes, the agent advised me that despite availability of new routing in same fare basis, I was unable to change to my suggested routing because this was "not the most direct routing" for YYZ to SIN.
I had never heard this excuse and am wondering whether web support just didn't want to reissue this ticket originally paid for in foreign currency. Any thoughts?
Also, a safe and healthy New Year to all here.
OP here. In looking at fare rules, it appears that maximum 3 transfers in USA are allowed in addition to 1 transfer in Canada and 2 transfers in Area 3. If I remove 1 segment in USA to my proposed itinerary change, might I get a positive approval from web support?
Last edited by cagcag; Dec 30, 2018 at 10:15 am
#1949
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Miami, Florida
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Adding two extra segments that will likely take a lot more time than the original itinerary's "minor time changes" seems like a perfect example of a change that would/should be declined by United, particularly when connecting to the (only) twice-daily SFO-SIN.
#1950
Join Date: Nov 2004
Programs: UA 1K (Million Miler). AA Gold (lifetime 1 Million). TK Elite Gold
Posts: 894
The revised proposed itinerary leaves origin and arrives in destination at same time. It includes an overnight in SFO. I am tempted to contact web support again later with attempt to revise itinerary to delete one of the 3 transfers. Maybe, YYZ-IAD-LAX-SFO-SIN might be acceptable??