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UA Orders Boeing 777-300ERs / 77Ws w/ 1-2-1 Polaris Business, 3-4-3 Economy

Old Jan 19, 2015, 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
GF is differentiated because you have a much higher FA to pax ratio, and bathroom to pax ratio. This means that, unlike in J, you don't feel like you are on an assembly line, don't have to fight for bin space, and don't have to perfectly time trips to the lav. It's an overall much more relaxing and enjoyable experience. ...
The customer population that prioritizes this feature set is very, very small....and that population is far more likely to pay for F on a global carrier, not on UA where GF is really just business class with a "higher FA to passenger ratio"...and a cup of soup.
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Old Jan 19, 2015, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by wxguy
Let the speculation begin: Will they be 2-class or 3-class?
2-class.....speculation done.
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Old Jan 19, 2015, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
The customer population that prioritizes this feature set is very, very small....and that population is far more likely to pay for F on a global carrier, not on UA where GF is really just business class with a "higher FA to passenger ratio"...and a cup of soup.
It's time to give your soup line a rest. The only people that prioritize density over space and maintaining and uncompetitive J are people that don't pay for it.
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Old Jan 19, 2015, 11:48 pm
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3-4-3 nightmare or 3-3-3 in economy?

3-4-3 will be narrower than 747 and 787 correct?
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 12:26 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
The customer population that prioritizes this feature set is very, very small....and that population is far more likely to pay for F on a global carrier, not on UA where GF is really just business class with a "higher FA to passenger ratio"...and a cup of soup.
Finally some honesty. I can't imagine anyone wanting more surly UA FAs than absolutely necessary. UA cannot compete with F among its own *A partners, let alone the super connectors of the Gulf.
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by sincx
3-4-3 nightmare or 3-3-3 in economy?

3-4-3 will be narrower than 747 and 787 correct?
AC runs their 777-300ER 3-4-3 with 31" pitch and 17" seat width.

It would stand to reason that UA would go for this same seating plan to maximize seats in economy. The seats should be comparable to the 747 and 787.

UA 747-400 has 31" pitch and 17" seat width in a 3-4-3 layout.
UA 787-8 has 32" pitch and 17.3" seat width in a 3-3-3 layout.
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 12:57 am
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Not even one row of GF? What would be wrong with that?
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 12:58 am
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Okay, I actually went to the link and read the article and was a little underwhelmed.

10 aircraft is kind of a small order and is likely just a replacement/refresh move. This doesn't seem like a huge move towards the 773, esp. since UA has already ponied up for 35 A350s. These will likely replace the oldest/most-cycled 772s and that's probably about it, or act as a bridge for the long(er) transpac routes until the 350s and/or 777Xs show up.

Interestingly enough, UA has 14 AC from 1995-1996 still in service, but after that they went heavy into the 772-ER.
How many of these have you been on ?
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 1:31 am
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Originally Posted by Jet'Dillo
Okay, I actually went to the link and read the article and was a little underwhelmed.

10 aircraft is kind of a small order and is likely just a replacement/refresh move. This doesn't seem like a huge move towards the 773, esp. since UA has already ponied up for 35 A350s. These will likely replace the oldest/most-cycled 772s and that's probably about it, or act as a bridge for the long(er) transpac routes until the 350s and/or 777Xs show up.

Interestingly enough, UA has 14 AC from 1995-1996 still in service, but after that they went heavy into the 772-ER.
How many of these have you been on ?
I think Boeing is just happy that anyone will take any of the current 777 frames to hold them over until 777x production and UA is very happy with the discount Boeing is willing to offer in to maybe help replace some frames they want to replace sooner but intended to replace with the A350 of 777x. Also, not a fan of planespotters.net calling E+ a "premium economy product" with the W cabin designation...we all know it's not really an upgrade
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 1:36 am
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Not even one row of GF? What would be wrong with that?
I agree. Why not have a small 4 seat F cabin?
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by kevanyalowitz
It's time to give your soup line a rest. The only people that prioritize density over space and maintaining and uncompetitive J are people that don't pay for it.
Indeed. It's a bowl of soup, not a cup. There are only so many fools who will part with GF money on UA and time has run out on them.
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
Not sure if you fly UA much to remember, Glenn Tilton ordered the A350-1000 were said specifically to replace the 744, and to be delivered by 2019.

Not to mention, UA is not NW (DL), UA has more than 20 744, so the 10 77W ordered for now won't be able to replace the entire UA's 744 fleet !
I actually don't flying on UA at all. Yes, you said about ordering the A350-1000XWB, but they haven't order the 77X yet. Hopefully in the future. They will eventually to order the 77X. You'll see.
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 3:13 am
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I hope not. It seems they are toying with 10 across with 777s - and the 350 sounds like a nicer plane all round judging by the early trip reports.
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 5:50 am
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UA 777 only have 9 across seating and that's a BIG plus!
for sure the new 777 will be the slaveships Air Canada ordered.
Lets hope UA waits for the A350. Or get Airbus to RUSH some new 350 to UA.
Reading the thread on cancelled and delayed flights to SYD, UA has got to get some more reliable planes FAST!
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 5:51 am
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UA is late (as usual) to the 77W party. Swiss too is getting 77W's to replace the A340-300's . Should have been done years ago . But they're probably getting a good deal from Boeing.
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