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Old May 10, 2015, 11:52 pm
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Originally Posted by fly18725
It is accommodation (at least at Airbus and Boeing), not amenities.
According to this FAA doc, it's "Accommodations," and I see both usages in industry references.
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Old May 12, 2015, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by VNAFlyer
....But UA is probably going to use the 77Ws to help accelerate the retirement of the 744s...
Originally Posted by Longboater
Jeff and Co. indicated on the earnings call that most of the 747s will stay in the fleet until 2020 when they are up for another round of D checks.
Interesting tidbit from from USA Today today:
But Conner [CEO of Boeing Commercial Airplanes] said the 777s will replace the airline's aging 747s.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ines/27179315/


Originally Posted by VNAFlyer
UA gets deep discounts on 77Ws, which they probably needed anyway.
Boeing gets a better shot at the 777 production line going right into 777X development.
Boeing frees up 789 slots to move up their delivery timetables.
All airlines in queue after UA gets slightly closer to their original delivery date.
UA's seat supplier gets to get rid of excess inventory

All in all, not a bad show for all involved.
Originally Posted by USAToday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ines/27179315/

The result will allow Boeing to get 777s to United faster while also moving up other customers in line to get the popular 787.

"All in all, every one of those moves was a fantastic, win-win solution, which we always are trying to do with our customers on these things," Conner said.
Just sayin'
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Old May 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by entropy
Seriously, who cares? it is what it is and you'll find out well before you can book it anyways.
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Old May 12, 2015, 3:54 pm
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Boeing will close 787 surge line to make way for producing 777X

"The surge line’s last 787 will begin final assembly in October and will roll out of the factory at the end of the year, Loftis said."

"Bob Feldmann, vice president in charge of the 777X program, said that after the surge line is cleared out, the assembly bay will become the base for low-rate initial production of the 777X. The first 777X will go down that new line in 2018, he said."
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Old May 13, 2015, 11:44 am
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Looks like the tentative plan calls for all 10 aircraft to be delivered December 2016 through April 2017:

http://www.briansumers.com/home/2015...irlines-colors

The linked article also has some nice renderings of United's 777-300ER.
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Old May 13, 2015, 12:56 pm
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So UA is sticking with the straight line livery and not the wavy lines on the 787.
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Old May 13, 2015, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Austin787
So UA is sticking with the straight line livery and not the wavy lines on the 787.
They probably thought it was best not to mess with a 25-year-old classic.
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Old May 13, 2015, 1:17 pm
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This is a Boeing spin that is inconsistent with UA's spin

Originally Posted by LarkSFO
Boeing will close 787 surge line to make way for producing 777X

"The surge line’s last 787 will begin final assembly in October and will roll out of the factory at the end of the year, Loftis said."

"Bob Feldmann, vice president in charge of the 777X program, said that after the surge line is cleared out, the assembly bay will become the base for low-rate initial production of the 777X. The first 777X will go down that new line in 2018, he said."
From USA today's article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ines/27179315/

"Meanwhile, United swapped an order for 10 Dreamliners in favor of the same number of 777-300ER aircraft, which became more attractive with lower fuel costs. United was the first U.S. carrier to fly the 787 and airline executives still like the plane. But Conner said the 777s will replace the airline's aging 747s."

As I understand, UA will put all 10 77Ws at EWR, where there is not a single B747. How does Mr. Conner's spin make sense?
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Old May 13, 2015, 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by channa
They probably thought it was best not to mess with a 25-year-old classic.
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Old May 13, 2015, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Kmxu
From USA today's article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ines/27179315/

"Meanwhile, United swapped an order for 10 Dreamliners in favor of the same number of 777-300ER aircraft, which became more attractive with lower fuel costs. United was the first U.S. carrier to fly the 787 and airline executives still like the plane. But Conner said the 777s will replace the airline's aging 747s."

As I understand, UA will put all 10 77Ws at EWR, where there is not a single B747. How does Mr. Conner's spin make sense?
I don't think the comment was to be taken as a literal one-for-one replacement but more from a capacity standpoint. And with almost 2 years between now and when the first one is on property the list of potential destinations where the 77Ws will not be static but fluctuate.
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Old May 13, 2015, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by lenscap
Looks like the tentative plan calls for all 10 aircraft to be delivered December 2016 through April 2017:

http://www.briansumers.com/home/2015...irlines-colors

The linked article also has some nice renderings of United's 777-300ER.
This confirms United will be receiving these planes with the final PIP to the 77W, ensuring the extra fuel efficiency and seats. These are perfect for EWR-DEL/BOM/HKG.
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Old May 25, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Longboater
This confirms United will be receiving these planes with the final PIP to the 77W, ensuring the extra fuel efficiency and seats. These are perfect for EWR-DEL/BOM/HKG.
I think the perfect solution would be 2x 788/789 depending on season, instead of 1x777W service. More flexibility.
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Old Jun 7, 2015, 11:23 am
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Oh boy, they're going to get some new slimmed lavs to fit more 10-abreast coach in!

It found room to shoehorn in as many as 14 more seats by shrinking the lavatories.
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The upgrades should be ready next year in time for the first deliveries of United Airlines’ 777-300ERs, Lund said.
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Old Jun 7, 2015, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by mduell
Oh boy, they're going to get some new slimmed lavs to fit more 10-abreast coach in!

It found room to shoehorn in as many as 14 more seats by shrinking the lavatories.
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The upgrades should be ready next year in time for the first deliveries of United Airlines’ 777-300ERs, Lund said.
The ratio of seats to lavs in economy on the existing 3-3-3 777s is terrible - made so much worse after the re-furb when they removed at least one and, in most cases, two lavs. The wait on a full flight for the lav can be 15 minutes as it stands at the moment.
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Old Jun 7, 2015, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
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Not. The 25 year old classic had the tulip on the tail.
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