Best TATL *A Business Class Choice [ARCHIVE]
#17
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#18
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Direct flight is always better when flying on award, for me at least.
I do agree that availably might be an issue, but what I like to do when I want to book J and dont want to spend the extra miles... I book J class to somewhere close in EU, like LIS in this case. fly J on UA to LIS and then Y from LIS to MAD on *A, that way the flight is charged for the UA miles.
As for short flights in the EU (actually even the long ones) on almost all airliners, J class is a Y class with food and blocked middle seat. space between seats is not even E+. I don't see the point in flying J class within the EU.
#19
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Thanks for the responses...I was really wondering more about TAP as I've read some not great reviews on this airline. I am flying EWR to MAD and then BCN back to EWR with 2 of us...not worried so much about the miles as just a comfortable flight experience and those were the only 3 options within my date ranges.
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#20
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TP is 100% slanted (don't bother)
LH is sometimes slanted sometimes flat (really luck of the draw)
AC is 100% flat but requires connection
UA is absolutely no brainer - guaranteed flat bed and nonstop from EWR. Sure it's a 752 but I'll take this option over the others.
LH is sometimes slanted sometimes flat (really luck of the draw)
AC is 100% flat but requires connection
UA is absolutely no brainer - guaranteed flat bed and nonstop from EWR. Sure it's a 752 but I'll take this option over the others.
#21
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Thanks for the responses...I was really wondering more about TAP as I've read some not great reviews on this airline. I am flying EWR to MAD and then BCN back to EWR with 2 of us...not worried so much about the miles as just a comfortable flight experience and those were the only 3 options within my date ranges.
MB
MB
Well the 75K miles you save will get you another trip to somewhere else. big spender
#22
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A key question, as a TATL flight if from the east coast, it is likely to be roughly 8 hour flight (short by some international standards) and may be in the daylight. -- Is lie flat seating a key want or if not sleeping then what would be the key factors (IFE, food, ...)?
#23
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A key question, as a TATL flight if from the east coast, it is likely to be roughly 8 hour flight (short by some international standards) and may be in the daylight. -- Is lie flat seating a key want or if not sleeping then what would be the key factors (IFE, food, ...)?
#24
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Most east coast to Europe are overnight flights, making the bed the most important criteria.
Daylight westbound Europe - NA flights, the food and IFE may play a higher role. For me, no amount of caviar and 23" 1080p programming can get me to sacrifice a good night's sleep.
EWR-LIS is one of the shorter 752 TATL flights that UA has, so I don't think winter diversions happen that often.
Berlin, on the other hand .... might as well schedule it as TXL-Gander-EWR.
Daylight westbound Europe - NA flights, the food and IFE may play a higher role. For me, no amount of caviar and 23" 1080p programming can get me to sacrifice a good night's sleep.
I'm pretty sure UA only has one or two daytime TATL flights (to LHR) so there is a nearly 100% chance it will be a red-eye so to me yes lie flats matter. The 752 - as a couple, in the summer (no return diversions lol), is a great experience - I wouldn't look any further.
Berlin, on the other hand .... might as well schedule it as TXL-Gander-EWR.
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#25
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OP is flying back from BCN in June - no issues there I hope!
#26
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Thanks for all the recommendations...think UA is the way to go. On a lighter note, "he" is a "she" living in Princeton...and I'm taking my daughter...so no worries on the diversions, summer or winter!
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#27
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: UA Silver
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Which would you choose SFO-MUC, in C?
Dear FTers - I am trying to decide which route to book:
Through FRA, UA on a 744
Through FRA, LH on an A388
Direct, LH on an A346
Both LH flights are supposed to have the new C according to the ticketing seat map, but I don't know how meaningful that is. (Too far out to use the LH tool).
Thanks for your advice!
Through FRA, UA on a 744
Through FRA, LH on an A388
Direct, LH on an A346
Both LH flights are supposed to have the new C according to the ticketing seat map, but I don't know how meaningful that is. (Too far out to use the LH tool).
Thanks for your advice!
#28
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Hello OP,
Please check this FT Wiki thread, it will answer all your questions regarding whether the aircraft has the new C or not.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...outes-etc.html
On top of that, given that LH SFO-MUC on the 346 has the new C, it's a no brainer for you to choose that route.
Please check this FT Wiki thread, it will answer all your questions regarding whether the aircraft has the new C or not.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...outes-etc.html
On top of that, given that LH SFO-MUC on the 346 has the new C, it's a no brainer for you to choose that route.
#29
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Dear FTers - I am trying to decide which route to book:
Through FRA, UA on a 744
Through FRA, LH on an A388
Direct, LH on an A346
Both LH flights are supposed to have the new C according to the ticketing seat map, but I don't know how meaningful that is. (Too far out to use the LH tool).
Thanks for your advice!
Through FRA, UA on a 744
Through FRA, LH on an A388
Direct, LH on an A346
Both LH flights are supposed to have the new C according to the ticketing seat map, but I don't know how meaningful that is. (Too far out to use the LH tool).
Thanks for your advice!
#30
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: UA Silver
Posts: 102
PQD are not a factor for me (CC waiver).
I am not sure if all the SFO-MUC 346s have the new C. I checked the LH tool for flights this week, and some came up as old C.
Though that risk might be less by the end of June, when I'm traveling.
I am not sure if all the SFO-MUC 346s have the new C. I checked the LH tool for flights this week, and some came up as old C.
Though that risk might be less by the end of June, when I'm traveling.