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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)

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Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM

This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.

Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP cards 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming years desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.

Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)

Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)

Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
- Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service

Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)

Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):

Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm

United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx

United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements

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Presidential Plus Card Changes

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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)

Old Jan 28, 23, 1:02 pm
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Come Feb 1, I will no longer be a Silver Elite but general member instead . I still have the PresPlus card and I was wondering what I will have in terms of travel perks without elite status. It has been about 10 years or so since I first earned premier status (Plat was highest ever). I know I wont have upgrade possibilities (not much of a chance anyway as a silver) but do I still get PremierAccess?
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Old Jan 28, 23, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by FreqFlyerCLE
Come Feb 1, I will no longer be a Silver Elite but general member instead . I still have the PresPlus card and I was wondering what I will have in terms of travel perks without elite status. It has been about 10 years or so since I first earned premier status (Plat was highest ever). I know I wont have upgrade possibilities (not much of a chance anyway as a silver) but do I still get PremierAccess?
Yes, as a Chase cardholder of a United-branded card, you will still have Premier Access and can board in Group 2.
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Old Jan 28, 23, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
Yes, as a Chase cardholder of a United-branded card, you will still have Premier Access and can board in Group 2.
ok thanks. So its Silver-lite without upgrade possibilities.
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Old Jan 28, 23, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by FreqFlyerCLE
ok thanks. So its Silver-lite without upgrade possibilities.
That's one way of putting it.
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Old Mar 10, 23, 5:07 pm
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I've been hanging on to my PP card just as an easy way to keep status through spend, but since they upped the PQP earning limit on Infinite card to 8,000 it may be time to finally let it go. I don't see being able to earn much more 5,000 PQP each year, and the 4x mile advantage on the Infinite card looks attractive. It looks like you can still do award travel upgrades on both cards. Am I missing anything else essential?
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Old Mar 10, 23, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by FreqFlyerCLE
ok thanks. So its Silver-lite without upgrade possibilities.
For those of us with grandfathered lifetime cards, that's actually a pretty good deal and part of why I've shifted most of my business to the competition. And it's not like that many Silvers actually have upgrades that ever clear.
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Old Mar 11, 23, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by worldwidedreamer
For those of us with grandfathered lifetime cards, that's actually a pretty good deal and part of why I've shifted most of my business to the competition. And it's not like that many Silvers actually have upgrades that ever clear.
Well, some Silvers do. Case in point - daughter (not a PP holder) cleared 2 days out on an E175 to AUS last week.

Rare but it does happen

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Old Mar 12, 23, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by DELee
Well, some Silvers do. Case in point - daughter (not a PP holder) cleared 2 days out on an E175 to AUS last week.

Rare but it does happen

David
As a recovering Platinum, I had many years with zero upgrades. Happy for your daughter!
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Old Mar 13, 23, 12:53 pm
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Obviously the routes you fly and when you fly them have a big role in how often Silvers upgrade, but when I was Silver pre-COVID I got upgraded maybe 20 percent of the time in and out of Kansas City. For me, the big benefit of Silver was the free E+ at check-in. Over 10 years and 10 to 15 trips a year as Silver I got E+ probably 95 percent of the time, including on international flights. That extra legroom over the Atlantic is worth a lot more to me than first class on a 90 minute flight.
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Old Mar 28, 23, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by paule123
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but TPG has an article about Chase DoorDash partnership extension, so I gave it a try by adding my PPMC as a payment type in the DoorDash app and it came back with an offer of one year free DashPass.
It's one year later, and my PPMC bill this month is showing a $9.99 charge for DashPass. Time to dump it... (dump the DoorDash DashPass)

ETA: I cancelled the DashPass in the DoorDash app and received an email a few minutes later saying the subscription is cancelled and they are refunding my card for $9.99.
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Old May 18, 23, 8:17 am
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Has anyone else noticed that Spending Summary, where you can easily check your annual spend, has disappeared from All Transactions in the Chase app?
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Old May 18, 23, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by Say Vandelay
Has anyone else noticed that Spending Summary, where you can easily check your annual spend, has disappeared from All Transactions in the Chase app?
its now under a button called spending planner
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Old Jul 15, 23, 4:37 pm
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Question regarding Boingo. All World Elite Mastercards apparently come with free or discounted Boingo access, but when I try to get a plan with my PP card, the number is rejected as ineligible.

Is this card somehow exempt?
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Old Jul 16, 23, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Question regarding Boingo. All World Elite Mastercards apparently come with free or discounted Boingo access, but when I try to get a plan with my PP card, the number is rejected as ineligible.

Is this card somehow exempt?
US cards do not appear to have access, regardless of the Bank, but you can check here with your account number:
https://redeem.boingo.com/mcsi/
Scroll down and there's a SKIP button that you have to click to continue and it's hard to see with an image over another image.
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Old Jul 16, 23, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO 1K
US cards do not appear to have access, regardless of the Bank, but you can check here with your account number:
https://redeem.boingo.com/mcsi/
Scroll down and there's a SKIP button that you have to click to continue and it's hard to see with an image over another image.
I checked and was denied. I guess the online advice elsewhere about all World Elite cards having access was false. At least I bought a $8 day pass vs giving Westjet $20 for their inflight WiFi.
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