Jan 5, 15, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP cards 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming years desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP cards 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming years desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Dec 17, 20, 1:00 pm
#976
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1.6MM 1K, UC Lifetime , HHonors Diamond, Presidential Plus card holder
Posts: 627
thanks this was very helpful
i didnt even realize this part at all, that there is a minimum 300 per flight, now i see it's in the fine print from UA
<3 flights in Q1 - get min. 300 PQP per flight + whatever PQP earned from said flight. If over 300 (say 1000 PQP, you earn 2000 PQP total up to 1500)>
i didnt even realize this part at all, that there is a minimum 300 per flight, now i see it's in the fine print from UA
<3 flights in Q1 - get min. 300 PQP per flight + whatever PQP earned from said flight. If over 300 (say 1000 PQP, you earn 2000 PQP total up to 1500)>
Gold isn't worth much though if you are not going to use it.
But, since you are out of JFK, it looks like you will have more options next year.
Gold bonus = 1750
Q1 Bonus = ~1000 note if you get this you probably have the 4 flight minimum and it implies you have some actual flying PQPs earned
FPQMs =1670 Check expiration dates, any expiring 3/31/21 must be transferred before that date (use all that expire in '21 between 1/1 and 3/31).
If expiry is not in 2021 do as airfly56 suggests and wait until you have flown your last 2021 segment, then apply what you need.
CC PQP earn = 500 only from 2021 spend
Actual Q1flights = ~1000 maybe a stretch or maybe not. I have three trips in first set up because of the PQP bonus and I feel more control over my personal space up front.
All of this gets you to 5920, a mere 1080 PQPs away. You could push some more spend on your card and get it to 1000 or even 1500 PQPs. You can buy P fares at reservation to substantially boost PQP earn for Q1 flights.
All of this is worth gaming out if, and only if, you see yourself flying a lot in 2022.
Last edited by 8MiHi; Dec 17, 20 at 1:25 pm
Jan 7, 21, 8:13 am
#977
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: IAH
Programs: Hilton Diamond; UA Gold; Marriott Gold; Accor Gold;
Posts: 209
Found this, thought you guys might be interested.
Chase Quarterly spend bonus linkhttps://www.chase.com/mybonus/united12
Activate and earn 5 total miles per $1 spent at grocery stores, gas stations and drugstores. Activate this special offer by March 31, 2021, and you'll earn 5 total miles for every $1 you spend on up to $1,500 in combined purchases at grocery stores, gas stations and drugstores from January 1 through March 31, 2021, with your United MileagePlus Credit Card.*
*To be eligible for this bonus offer, you must activate by 03/31/21 11:59 p.m. E.T. You will earn 5 miles total for each $1 spent in the grocery store, gas station, and drugstore categories on up to $1,500 in total combined purchases from 01/01/2021 to 3/31/2021. That’s 4 miles on top of the 1 mile you already earn on those purchases with your card. Merchants who accept Visa/Mastercard credit cards are assigned a merchant code, which is determined by the merchant or its processor in accordance with Visa/Mastercard procedures based on the kinds of products and services they primarily sell. We group similar merchant codes into categories for purposes of making rewards offers to you. Please note: We make every effort to include all relevant merchant codes in our rewards categories. However, even though a merchant or some of the items that it sells may appear to fit within a rewards category, the merchant may not have a merchant code in that category. When this occurs, purchases with that merchant won’t qualify for rewards offers on purchases in that category. Purchases submitted by you, an authorized user, or the merchant through third-party payment accounts, mobile or wireless card readers, online or mobile digital wallets, or similar technology will not qualify in a rewards category if the technology is not set up to process the purchase in that rewards category. For more information about Chase rewards categories, see chase.com/RewardsCategoryFAQs. Purchases posted to your account with a transaction date during the offer period are eligible for this offer. Delays by the merchant, such as shipping, could extend the transaction date beyond the offer period. Please allow up to 8 weeks after qualifying purchases post to your account for miles to post to your account. (“Purchases” do not include balance transfers, cash advances, travelers checks, foreign currency, money orders, wire transfers or similar cash-like transactions, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, race track wagers or similar betting transactions, any checks that access your account, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, and fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.) To qualify for this bonus offer, account must be open and not in default at the time of fulfillment. This bonus offer is non-transferable. Eligible credit cards: UnitedSM Explorer Card, United MileagePlus Card, United MileagePlus Awards Card, United ClubSM Card, and the United Presidential PlusSM Card.
Chase Quarterly spend bonus linkhttps://www.chase.com/mybonus/united12
Activate and earn 5 total miles per $1 spent at grocery stores, gas stations and drugstores. Activate this special offer by March 31, 2021, and you'll earn 5 total miles for every $1 you spend on up to $1,500 in combined purchases at grocery stores, gas stations and drugstores from January 1 through March 31, 2021, with your United MileagePlus Credit Card.*
*To be eligible for this bonus offer, you must activate by 03/31/21 11:59 p.m. E.T. You will earn 5 miles total for each $1 spent in the grocery store, gas station, and drugstore categories on up to $1,500 in total combined purchases from 01/01/2021 to 3/31/2021. That’s 4 miles on top of the 1 mile you already earn on those purchases with your card. Merchants who accept Visa/Mastercard credit cards are assigned a merchant code, which is determined by the merchant or its processor in accordance with Visa/Mastercard procedures based on the kinds of products and services they primarily sell. We group similar merchant codes into categories for purposes of making rewards offers to you. Please note: We make every effort to include all relevant merchant codes in our rewards categories. However, even though a merchant or some of the items that it sells may appear to fit within a rewards category, the merchant may not have a merchant code in that category. When this occurs, purchases with that merchant won’t qualify for rewards offers on purchases in that category. Purchases submitted by you, an authorized user, or the merchant through third-party payment accounts, mobile or wireless card readers, online or mobile digital wallets, or similar technology will not qualify in a rewards category if the technology is not set up to process the purchase in that rewards category. For more information about Chase rewards categories, see chase.com/RewardsCategoryFAQs. Purchases posted to your account with a transaction date during the offer period are eligible for this offer. Delays by the merchant, such as shipping, could extend the transaction date beyond the offer period. Please allow up to 8 weeks after qualifying purchases post to your account for miles to post to your account. (“Purchases” do not include balance transfers, cash advances, travelers checks, foreign currency, money orders, wire transfers or similar cash-like transactions, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, race track wagers or similar betting transactions, any checks that access your account, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, and fees of any kind, including an annual fee, if applicable.) To qualify for this bonus offer, account must be open and not in default at the time of fulfillment. This bonus offer is non-transferable. Eligible credit cards: UnitedSM Explorer Card, United MileagePlus Card, United MileagePlus Awards Card, United ClubSM Card, and the United Presidential PlusSM Card.
Jan 7, 21, 8:27 am
#978
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 254
I already signed up for that offer, but cannot stop thinking about how Chase and United have failed those of us still holding on to this card. With the extension of previously-earned status and inability to apply FPQM to anything higher than Platinum, I am sitting on roughly 1600 FPQM that are going to expire in March. That equates to a substantial cash balance in useless benefits. I was hoping United and Chase would have come to some decision to allow the FPQMs to be converted to PQMs at a reasonable rate, or convert the FPQMs to regular miles, also at a reasonable rate. I become more annoyed when I think that those 1600 FPQM were the result of 8,000 in spending (200 FPQM for every 1000 dollars spent).
I have emailed Chase and United but get plated responses about how they are always looking for feedback.
I have emailed Chase and United but get plated responses about how they are always looking for feedback.
Jan 7, 21, 8:38 am
#979
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: IAH
Programs: Hilton Diamond; UA Gold; Marriott Gold; Accor Gold;
Posts: 209
I already signed up for that offer, but cannot stop thinking about how Chase and United have failed those of us still holding on to this card. With the extension of previously-earned status and inability to apply FPQM to anything higher than Platinum, I am sitting on roughly 1600 FPQM that are going to expire in March. That equates to a substantial cash balance in useless benefits. I was hoping United and Chase would have come to some decision to allow the FPQMs to be converted to PQMs at a reasonable rate, or convert the FPQMs to regular miles, also at a reasonable rate. I become more annoyed when I think that those 1600 FPQM were the result of 8,000 in spending (200 FPQM for every 1000 dollars spent).
I have emailed Chase and United but get plated responses about how they are always looking for feedback.
I have emailed Chase and United but get plated responses about how they are always looking for feedback.
Clearly Chase/United hates this card being open.
Jan 7, 21, 8:49 am
#980
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 254
I believe that allowing these FPQMs to go towards 1K, it would cost something, but not nearly equate to what a typical 1K year has been. Demand is not expected to recover to previous levels for some time. It would be an easy way to get me, a leisure traveler to shut up, without much cost. I am sure they know what the impact is based on who has the card and their previous travel patterns. Between wasted FPQM and travel certificates galore with no plans to travel, I am trying hard to be optimistic that things will soon turn around!
Good luck to all of us!
Good luck to all of us!
Jan 7, 21, 9:44 am
#981
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: IAH
Programs: Hilton Diamond; UA Gold; Marriott Gold; Accor Gold;
Posts: 209
Originally Posted by worldwidedreamer View Post
Received a pretty compelling targeted promotion for the PP card today. Anyone else receive this or something better/worse?
20k miles with $5k/quarter in spend, or $200 inn $50 chunks every quarter use it or loose it.
Which one should I choose?
I chose the cash....
Received my $50 TB credit today (1/6), expires 4/6/21. Just need to find a cheap destination.
Received a pretty compelling targeted promotion for the PP card today. Anyone else receive this or something better/worse?
20k miles with $5k/quarter in spend, or $200 inn $50 chunks every quarter use it or loose it.
Which one should I choose?
I chose the cash....
Received my $50 TB credit today (1/6), expires 4/6/21. Just need to find a cheap destination.
Last edited by tex1721; Jan 7, 21 at 10:49 am
Jan 7, 21, 3:19 pm
#983
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,720
I recently received a new card. Think the updated design looks much more crisp.
Jan 7, 21, 5:06 pm
#984
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .56 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 13,892
Which is the new one?
Jan 8, 21, 1:37 pm
#986
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 5
Had two questions and couldn't find anything when I searched the thread...
Can anyone confirm that the PQP earning works for an additional cardholder if you add one?
Is there any place to track where you are relative to the $12k spend threshold? Best I can figure is to estimate it based on looking at [spending on Chase site] since your [last 500 PQP deposit on UA site]. I unknowingly clicked over and earned a deposit in late December, which pretty much sucked. Oh well.
Can anyone confirm that the PQP earning works for an additional cardholder if you add one?
Is there any place to track where you are relative to the $12k spend threshold? Best I can figure is to estimate it based on looking at [spending on Chase site] since your [last 500 PQP deposit on UA site]. I unknowingly clicked over and earned a deposit in late December, which pretty much sucked. Oh well.
Jan 8, 21, 3:38 pm
#987
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,720
Jan 8, 21, 4:33 pm
#988
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .56 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 13,892
That Chase logo placement is similar to the newer Marriott Bonvy Visa.
The name "CHASE" followed by logo now appears on the reverse at the bottom right, below the "contactless" symbol (four 45 arcs).
The name "CHASE" followed by logo now appears on the reverse at the bottom right, below the "contactless" symbol (four 45 arcs).
Jan 8, 21, 6:59 pm
#989
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 8,742
Was able to sign up for the Q1 bonus as well via the link provided. Interesting that the PP is basically being treated like a Chase Freedom card at this point with regards to these categories. Sadly, only the drugstore one is of any use - I don't have a car, and I am busy working on the first $12k spend at 5x on the Freedom Flex at the moment. If they could bring back Amazon.com, that is definitely one I would amp up usage of...
Jan 9, 21, 7:51 am
#990
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: IAH
Programs: Hilton Diamond; UA Gold; Marriott Gold; Accor Gold;
Posts: 209
Had two questions and couldn't find anything when I searched the thread...
Can anyone confirm that the PQP earning works for an additional cardholder if you add one?
Yes, as long as the card numbers are the same. i.e. my wife has the exact same card number as I do. Unlike Amex cards, two different card numbers... one account. With only one able to use amex offers.
Chase offers, both cards can use.
Is there any place to track where you are relative to the $12k spend threshold? Best I can figure is to estimate it based on looking at [spending on Chase site] since your [last 500 PQP deposit on UA site]. I unknowingly clicked over and earned a deposit in late December, which pretty much sucked. Oh well.
Can anyone confirm that the PQP earning works for an additional cardholder if you add one?
Yes, as long as the card numbers are the same. i.e. my wife has the exact same card number as I do. Unlike Amex cards, two different card numbers... one account. With only one able to use amex offers.
Chase offers, both cards can use.
Is there any place to track where you are relative to the $12k spend threshold? Best I can figure is to estimate it based on looking at [spending on Chase site] since your [last 500 PQP deposit on UA site]. I unknowingly clicked over and earned a deposit in late December, which pretty much sucked. Oh well.
