Jan 5, 15, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jun 10, 14, 1:30 pm
#77
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston (IAH,HOU) / Kāʻanapali (JHM,OGG)
Programs: UA GS 2MM, AA P 2MM, DL PM, US P, VS G, SPG LT P, HH D, HYATT P, PC P, AVIS PC, HERTZ PLAT
Posts: 970
Jun 11, 14, 10:19 am
#78
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 18
Value of Flex PQM
It strikes me the "no change to premier qualifying" is likely a transitional arrangement. Why continue tracking BIS miles only for status qualification? Will 2016 bring revenue-only PQM?
With reduced award incentive any 2015 mileage runs, it seems the Flex PQM miles from the PP card could now be more valuable for a mid-tier flyer who prefers not purchasing those last few miles for the Gold or Platinum. My annual renewal is coming up shortly and my first thought is to keep the PP for another year and see how it is impacted by whatever change comes next.
With reduced award incentive any 2015 mileage runs, it seems the Flex PQM miles from the PP card could now be more valuable for a mid-tier flyer who prefers not purchasing those last few miles for the Gold or Platinum. My annual renewal is coming up shortly and my first thought is to keep the PP for another year and see how it is impacted by whatever change comes next.
Jun 11, 14, 10:24 am
#79
Moderator: United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.9MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 64,425
UA wants both the high revenue and high frequency requirements.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ad-2014-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...4-edition.html
Jun 11, 14, 12:13 pm
#80
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,152
United need not be "fair." Perhaps it likes making elites jump through two hoops (both miles and money).
Jun 11, 14, 12:33 pm
#82
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG 75k, UA zilch, IHG Spire, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Plat, Hertz Gold, Avis Presidents
Posts: 1,302
Jun 11, 14, 1:30 pm
#83
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SEA or BGR, Lower Earth Orbit
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 17,157
To be fair, Chase still lists the card on their website, and there are plenty of references throughout UA's website as well. Someone was just trying to be helpful, not timely, but none-the-less helpful.
Jun 18, 14, 3:31 pm
#84
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NY NJ
Programs: United 1K, EL AL Silver
Posts: 202
Avis president
I have the chase PP credit card for about 5 years and I just check my status with Avis and I realized I was downgraded to Avis First from Avis President, I thought it was for those who only have the mileage Club Card who lost the president status but not for Presidental plus cards,
Also who can I call to get he status back
Thanks
Solma
Also who can I call to get he status back
Thanks
Solma
Jun 18, 14, 3:40 pm
#85
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.5MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Gold, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,285
I have the chase PP credit card for about 5 years and I just check my status with Avis and I realized I was downgraded to Avis First from Avis President, I thought it was for those who only have the mileage Club Card who lost the president status but not for Presidental plus cards,
Also who can I call to get he status back
Thanks
Solma
Also who can I call to get he status back
Thanks
Solma
Jun 18, 14, 4:20 pm
#87
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,195
Jun 18, 14, 4:31 pm
#88
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,719
I have Avis Presidents Club via the PP card and Avis First via Founders Card. IMHO the Presidents Club is far more valuable: the big Avis First benefit is frequent free weekend rentals which never seem to work out.
With Presidents Club I've had amazing luck reserving intermediate cars and driving something far nicer. E.G. over Christmas visiting my inlaws in Wisconsin I had an upgrade from an intermediate to a Ford Flex SUV which literally saved the holiday when a big snow storm hit.
Still: At the moment I'm avoiding Avis because of a $100+ of bogus charges (which Avis can't explain) relating to an Israeli rental.
With Presidents Club I've had amazing luck reserving intermediate cars and driving something far nicer. E.G. over Christmas visiting my inlaws in Wisconsin I had an upgrade from an intermediate to a Ford Flex SUV which literally saved the holiday when a big snow storm hit.
Still: At the moment I'm avoiding Avis because of a $100+ of bogus charges (which Avis can't explain) relating to an Israeli rental.
Jun 18, 14, 5:16 pm
#90
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.5MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Gold, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,285
ADDENDUM: Go here: http://www.avis.com/car-rental/html/...esidentialplus
You can call & get re-upped to President's Club
Last edited by kirkwoodj; Jun 18, 14 at 5:22 pm Reason: addendum
