Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jul 9, 2019, 1:17 pm
#721
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Exec Plat; UA Plat
Posts: 435
I did just experience this recently myself. Were you possibly booking for multiple passengers? In my case I booked tickets for my wife and son two weeks ago. When I got to the payment screen, the website suddenly added in $50 (2x$25) for close-in fee that had not been in any of the subsequent screens. The chase link I found said that the close-in fee is waived for tickets purchased for the cardholder and for authorized users. This made me think that I was being charged for both, despite my wife being on the account, since my son is not on my card account.<br /><br />To test this, I then tried booking just a ticket for my just my wife, thinking I would just buy a separate ticket for my son to at least save myself one $25 close-in fee. Sure enough, this time I got to the payment screen with no fee, but then I realized that since my son is a minor I could not book his ticket alone without calling in (and likely getting hit with an additional $25 phone booking fee).<br /><br />So I ended up just booking both together and of course the $50 fee showed back up again at the end of the process. I paid it, then called in and explained that apparent web error (I noted that my wife is an authorized user, and that oddly enough my 4 year is not...). The agent very quickly refunded the fee.<br /><br />Good luck
Aug 31, 2019, 9:44 pm
#722
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: JFK
Posts: 255
I did not think I would stick with the card, but I have. The spend waiver and other benefits come in handy. Curious if there is any way to know how many still have this card? 1000? 10000?
Also, any thoughts if they will add any benefit to offset the close in fee waiver which is going away for everyone?
Also, any thoughts if they will add any benefit to offset the close in fee waiver which is going away for everyone?
Aug 31, 2019, 9:58 pm
#723
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,850
The Chase MP Club card has similar benefits (but requires $35K spend for the PQD waiver) and is presently available and even then I would not expect a new benefit in replacement or the close-in fee change.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 31, 2019 at 10:04 pm
Sep 26, 2019, 2:34 pm
#724
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,290
Presidential Plus came up on the most recent episode of Talking Points podcast in an interview with Luc Bondar from MP. Kelly noted that the lack of an "EQM" earning card in the lineup and Bondar's response was basically "stay tuned". https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-pluspoints/
Oct 10, 2019, 9:36 am
#725
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold, PF Chang's Warrior, Wine Century 100
Posts: 1,105
Can anyone confirm that the Price Protection benefit has been removed? I called the benefits administrator today to file a claim for a price drop on a TV I purchased last month and was told that Price Protection was removed from this card in August 2018.
Oct 10, 2019, 10:33 am
#726
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: CO hublette
Programs: UA AU MM,HH Diamond,Hyatt Globalist , Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,281
Price Protection
If a United Presidential Plus Card purchase you made in the U.S. is advertised for less in print or online within 90 days, you can be reimbursed for the difference up to $500 per item and up to $2,500 per year.
Oct 10, 2019, 10:50 am
#727
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,305
Here we go again ...
Once again, my card # gets clipped.
Once again, used in California and Mexico.
Once again, Chase doesn't care. Just cancels the transactions and sends me a new card.
Once again, I have to go update every danged auto-bill that uses this card.
Once again, I'm REALLY tired of it.
But, once again, I don't want to give up this card, mostly for the Avis President's Club access.
Once again, used in California and Mexico.
Once again, Chase doesn't care. Just cancels the transactions and sends me a new card.
Once again, I have to go update every danged auto-bill that uses this card.
Once again, I'm REALLY tired of it.
But, once again, I don't want to give up this card, mostly for the Avis President's Club access.
Oct 10, 2019, 11:45 am
#728
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: United 1k, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador and LT-Gold
Posts: 1,660
dmurphynj -
yup - same thing happened to me in the middle of a business trip for which I rely heavily on my Chase United card.
no problem canceling my card - even if I dont want or need to canceled based upon a random potential fraud charge
but now I need to fix everything... and fortunately I have an Apple credit card that I can now use (fine, hate me for that - and hate me for not having 6 credit cards i my wallet)
... happening to me more frequently which is interesting since most of my charges are online on very trusted sources and rarely to I use the actual card (except for things like gas locally and hotels)
the issue that I find is that sometimes I need to make advanced reservations for future hotel stays and put a deposit down on a card that then gets canceled - a real mess when I need to stay at the hotel or change anything.
-m
yup - same thing happened to me in the middle of a business trip for which I rely heavily on my Chase United card.
no problem canceling my card - even if I dont want or need to canceled based upon a random potential fraud charge
but now I need to fix everything... and fortunately I have an Apple credit card that I can now use (fine, hate me for that - and hate me for not having 6 credit cards i my wallet)
... happening to me more frequently which is interesting since most of my charges are online on very trusted sources and rarely to I use the actual card (except for things like gas locally and hotels)
the issue that I find is that sometimes I need to make advanced reservations for future hotel stays and put a deposit down on a card that then gets canceled - a real mess when I need to stay at the hotel or change anything.
-m
Oct 10, 2019, 12:00 pm
#729
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,305
dmurphynj -
yup - same thing happened to me in the middle of a business trip for which I rely heavily on my Chase United card.
no problem canceling my card - even if I dont want or need to canceled based upon a random potential fraud charge
but now I need to fix everything... and fortunately I have an Apple credit card that I can now use (fine, hate me for that - and hate me for not having 6 credit cards i my wallet)
... happening to me more frequently which is interesting since most of my charges are online on very trusted sources and rarely to I use the actual card (except for things like gas locally and hotels)
the issue that I find is that sometimes I need to make advanced reservations for future hotel stays and put a deposit down on a card that then gets canceled - a real mess when I need to stay at the hotel or change anything.
-m
yup - same thing happened to me in the middle of a business trip for which I rely heavily on my Chase United card.
no problem canceling my card - even if I dont want or need to canceled based upon a random potential fraud charge
but now I need to fix everything... and fortunately I have an Apple credit card that I can now use (fine, hate me for that - and hate me for not having 6 credit cards i my wallet)
... happening to me more frequently which is interesting since most of my charges are online on very trusted sources and rarely to I use the actual card (except for things like gas locally and hotels)
the issue that I find is that sometimes I need to make advanced reservations for future hotel stays and put a deposit down on a card that then gets canceled - a real mess when I need to stay at the hotel or change anything.
-m
5466 5760 xxxx xxxx seems to be the issue... They told me this time that the card was definitely "swiped" so someone is making physical cards and using them. I suspect they just keep running random numbers in that range until they get ones that work.
But either way, Chase has a big fraud problem on their hands, and they just don't seem to care.
I also have an Apple card, as well as a Chase Sapphire Reserve, so I'm not really "stuck" when (not if) this card gets stolen again... but it's very frustrating. And I'm too stupid to cancel it altogether... or at least have them switch me to the Visa version of it. (I'm still on a MasterCard.). I don't want the change because that will make me lose the Avis Presidents' Club benefits, which I use all the time.
Oct 10, 2019, 12:04 pm
#730
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: United 1k, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Ambassador and LT-Gold
Posts: 1,660
I can see how things like this become more and more common - and without a reasonable solution to the consumer - that people are driven to things like the Apple card (for it's security features) and only keep their "credit cards" unused in their wallets for the benefits - something I am sure Chase et al love....cc used only for perks, but no charging.
Oct 10, 2019, 1:04 pm
#731
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,290
Oct 10, 2019, 3:14 pm
#734
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,305
Oct 10, 2019, 3:26 pm
#735
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AA Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 695
They're interested in you giving up the PP card as fast as possible to push the new Club card with higher annual fees.