Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
May 22, 2017, 12:15 pm
#571
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No. Both cards grant the same expanded inventory access (XN, YN, JN) for awards, and both cards will prevent your miles from expiring.
May 22, 2017, 2:52 pm
#572
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Two thoughts:
a) Might Chase want to increase the annual fee so they can offer $x in airline spending credits like Amex Plat, or indeed Chase Sapphire?
b) Speaking of which the CSR card launch went extraordinarily well. Might Chase feel they no longer need United as a partner?
a) Might Chase want to increase the annual fee so they can offer $x in airline spending credits like Amex Plat, or indeed Chase Sapphire?
b) Speaking of which the CSR card launch went extraordinarily well. Might Chase feel they no longer need United as a partner?
May 22, 2017, 4:56 pm
#573
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b) Speaking of which the CSR card launch went extraordinarily well. Might Chase feel they no longer need United as a partner?
believe that the relationship is quite strong. Chase processes a lot of transactions with its UA branded cards.
Jun 10, 2017, 10:08 am
#575
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Location: CLE
Programs: UA Gold, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,659
Got the dreaded AF increase notice today. I'm trying to decide what to do. I have lifetime club membership and 1MM. But I like the card for the PQD waiver (no minimum spend). But not so much as to spend $450 for it. I'm trying to decide if getting one of the other cards that comes with a PQD waiver for a $25k spend is worth it.
Jun 10, 2017, 1:09 pm
#577
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Jun 19, 2017, 1:15 pm
#579
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Has anyone else gotten lucky?
Jun 19, 2017, 1:31 pm
#581
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I'd be curious what exactly that change is. It s
unds fishy to me.
unds fishy to me.
Jun 19, 2017, 2:17 pm
#582
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: UA Platinum Lifetime Club Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 3
I received the same $100 to $450 notice. I called Chase and they said I had to talk with UA Mileageplus. I called MP and they said I had to talk with Chase. I called Chase again -- they said they had to treat everyone the same based on a 2009 law. I asked whether that meant that they had been violating the law for the past eight years. They were a little tongue-tied after that, but not so much that they couldn't tell that I could pay or cancel the card.
I have been a CO, then UA Lifetime Club member for over 20 years and a PP card holder for I think over 10 years. With all that is going on in air travel today, why is United treating its best customers this way?
I have been a CO, then UA Lifetime Club member for over 20 years and a PP card holder for I think over 10 years. With all that is going on in air travel today, why is United treating its best customers this way?
Jun 19, 2017, 3:13 pm
#583
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Posts: 821
I got my notice too today. I called to see if I could be nice and they would work with me......NOPE!!!! It's either you accept their offer or you don't. There's no middle ground. I'm a Lifetime 1k and such....and even the Chase rep couldn't come up for a reason for me to keep the card.......The day passes are killing the clubs where you can't even find a seat most days etc.......and the top shelf drink prices aren't even competitive...... the food has gotten worse and worse..
Jun 19, 2017, 8:39 pm
#584
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As there is also a discussion of a similiar fee change in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ug-2017-a.html have moved recent Chase MP Club card fee change posts to that thread.
WineCountryUA
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WineCountryUA
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Jun 20, 2017, 5:15 pm
#585
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Mine came today. $375.00 to $450.00 I find use for the UA Clubs and will keep the card. Got lucky as $375.00 charge just came in April, so I have a while.