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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)

Old Jan 6, 15, 12:45 am
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This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.

Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP cards 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming years desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.

Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)

Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesnt apply to 1K)

Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
- Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service

Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)

Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):

Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm

United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx

United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements

Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes

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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)

Old Apr 11, 17, 3:26 pm
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Have the annual fee statement credits ($95) for 1k members on the PP+ card been removed?
TIA
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Old Apr 11, 17, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BZRORG View Post
Have the annual fee statement credits ($95) for 1k members ...
The $60 1K/GS statement credit when away a year ago.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...edit-card.html

Please note that this credit will be discontinued after the second quarter of 2016.
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Old Apr 27, 17, 7:17 pm
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Just got a mailer from Chase that my Pres Plus annual fee is going from $375 to $450 effective July 2017.
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Old Apr 27, 17, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by paule123 View Post
Just got a mailer from Chase that my Pres Plus annual fee is going from $375 to $450 effective July 2017.
So much for
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA View Post
-- Chase "grandfathers" cardholders at their initial annual fee.
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Old Apr 27, 17, 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by paule123 View Post
Just got a mailer from Chase that my Pres Plus annual fee is going from $375 to $450 effective July 2017.
are the benefits remain the same?
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Old Apr 27, 17, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by TAHKUCT View Post
are the benefits remain the same?
The annual fee was the only thing referenced in the change to account terms.
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Old Apr 28, 17, 3:30 pm
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Tried to find out if the reduced Pres Plus annual fee for Lifetime Club members has been discontinued by calling Chase. They had no answer.
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Old Apr 30, 17, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by paule123 View Post
Just got a mailer from Chase that my Pres Plus annual fee is going from $375 to $450 effective July 2017.
My annual membership fee is usually charged in early June so guess that's why I didn't receive this mailer.
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Old Apr 30, 17, 9:12 am
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Did the mailer say any benefits were changing?

Mine renews in March so I have time but if it increases to $450, I might have to dump it.
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Old Apr 30, 17, 10:12 am
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If I'm a 1K and my membership is the same $450, why do I need this card? I don't see any advantage, especially given Amex MR are more valuable, or Chase URs are easier to earn through MS and gaming the system.

I only kept it for the primary rental car insurance, but I can get the same with my Amex Platinum, along with duplicates of the other benefits - so if the cost goes up, then bye-bye.
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Old Apr 30, 17, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by paule123 View Post
Just got a mailer from Chase that my Pres Plus annual fee is going from $375 to $450 effective July 2017.
Near CLE here and nothing in the mail yet, but my $375 fee hit on April 1--so maybe they will notify closer to 4/1/18. Hmm.
I wonder what it says if I use "send cardmember agreement" online to have them send a hard copy of it now?
In 10 or 11 months, I'll have to see if I've not gotten anything. Being only Gold and possibly using some Flex PQMs to get Platinum, the Pres Plus will still be worth having, but for a 1K, it won't make sense to have vs. the Club credit card or just a Club membership.
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Old Apr 30, 17, 2:56 pm
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I haven't seen anything in the mail...then again, I tend to throw away anything that looks like a standard CC notification without opening it. My fee is assessed towards the end of the year, so won't know for a while.
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Old May 1, 17, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by benjy View Post
Tried to find out if the reduced Pres Plus annual fee for Lifetime Club members has been discontinued by calling Chase. They had no answer.
If it goes to $450, this LT PP member will bounce. FWIW I get more value from my $550 Amex Plat.
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Old May 1, 17, 6:28 pm
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A friend who is also a LT club member with the PP card tells me she received a notification of increase t $450.
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Old May 1, 17, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy View Post
A friend who is also a LT club member with the PP card tells me she received a notification of increase t $450.


This is (sadly) my longest open card (had it since college). Anyone know what I can convert it to or should I just cut my losses next yr and close the account?
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