Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jan 27, 2017, 8:28 pm
#451
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1k MM, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 256
Wow I received the annual flyer from the PP card today and what garbage they value this card now. I remember we used to get an fancy Black shiny bubble mailer with an whole booklet of catalogues (I threw away) but at least it cost them an bit.
Today received an blue envelope instead
Today received an blue envelope instead
Jan 30, 2017, 6:42 am
#453
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,415
Wow I received the annual flyer from the PP card today and what garbage they value this card now. I remember we used to get an fancy Black shiny bubble mailer with an whole booklet of catalogues (I threw away) but at least it cost them an bit.
Today received an blue envelope instead
Today received an blue envelope instead
t by what they send to my mailbox.
Feb 1, 2017, 4:15 pm
#455
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA MileagePlus Premier Platinum
Posts: 1,360
It just takes some time. I got mine about 10 days after making Plat.
Feb 8, 2017, 11:49 am
#456
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: CAK/CLE
Programs: UA Plat/AA,DL Dirt/HH Diamond,Hyatt Something-ist/Hz Prez,Avis Pres Club
Posts: 674
I got an email from Avis congratulating me on another year of Presidents Club status. Not sure how this has continued; Avis isn't even a partner of MileagePlus anymore and the card has awarded Hertz status instead of Avis for a couple years now, and I didn't have a ton of Avis rentals last year. But I'll take the status and use its benefits for sure anyway!
The next interesting thing is whether to see if the annual fee sticks at $375 or increases; it's held steady for me through the increases and discontinuation in favor of the Club card.
The next interesting thing is whether to see if the annual fee sticks at $375 or increases; it's held steady for me through the increases and discontinuation in favor of the Club card.
Feb 8, 2017, 2:36 pm
#457
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,415
I recently got a new card for an authorized user. It had the globe logo in light grey spread across a grey card. T
day I received a brochure welcoming me to another year of having the card. It displayed the old blue card with a light blue globe set in a square in the middle.
day I received a brochure welcoming me to another year of having the card. It displayed the old blue card with a light blue globe set in a square in the middle.
Feb 8, 2017, 5:25 pm
#458
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 9,005
I got an email from Avis congratulating me on another year of Presidents Club status. Not sure how this has continued; Avis isn't even a partner of MileagePlus anymore and the card has awarded Hertz status instead of Avis for a couple years now, and I didn't have a ton of Avis rentals last year. But I'll take the status and use its benefits for sure anyway!
The next interesting thing is whether to see if the annual fee sticks at $375 or increases; it's held steady for me through the increases and discontinuation in favor of the Club card.
The next interesting thing is whether to see if the annual fee sticks at $375 or increases; it's held steady for me through the increases and discontinuation in favor of the Club card.
Feb 8, 2017, 6:47 pm
#459
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: IAH
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hyatt Globalist, DL Plat, UA Silver
Posts: 4,043
I got an email from Avis congratulating me on another year of Presidents Club status. Not sure how this has continued; Avis isn't even a partner of MileagePlus anymore and the card has awarded Hertz status instead of Avis for a couple years now, and I didn't have a ton of Avis rentals last year. But I'll take the status and use its benefits for sure anyway!
The next interesting thing is whether to see if the annual fee sticks at $375 or increases; it's held steady for me through the increases and discontinuation in favor of the Club card.
The next interesting thing is whether to see if the annual fee sticks at $375 or increases; it's held steady for me through the increases and discontinuation in favor of the Club card.
Silvercar and Uber FTW.
Feb 8, 2017, 7:04 pm
#460
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: CAK/CLE
Programs: UA Plat/AA,DL Dirt/HH Diamond,Hyatt Something-ist/Hz Prez,Avis Pres Club
Posts: 674
I had trouble a year ago with the Hyatt status benefit not wanting to stick, with Hyatt, Chase, and United passing it back and forth. The Hyatt status from the Pres Plus card became moot with the Hyatt Visa card anyway, the annual fee on it being cheaper than a paid night that I know I need to use every year. So I'm not doing too bad with the benefits of the card overall; the Morton's benefit of the card from long ago has stuck with Landry's for a while, which I don't think was offered as a benefit even before the merger.
I just wonder how long the card itself will last. It isn't the only legacy card that still exists, so for now they seem content to let it ride.
Feb 8, 2017, 9:24 pm
#461
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,305
(And yes I still have the Avis P Club membership - though I do usually have 40-50 Avis rentals annually....)
Feb 8, 2017, 9:57 pm
#462
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Japan
Posts: 5,577
I still show as an Avis Preferred but not as Avis President Circle as before. In any case
these are my last months with the original CO PP card. I get everything and more with the
AMEX Plat and Chase Sapphire card plus my MMer gives me *Gold and lounge access on Int'l
flights. I don't do domestic since I am In Japan. So I will cancel at the next renewal date.
these are my last months with the original CO PP card. I get everything and more with the
AMEX Plat and Chase Sapphire card plus my MMer gives me *Gold and lounge access on Int'l
flights. I don't do domestic since I am In Japan. So I will cancel at the next renewal date.
Mar 9, 2017, 6:45 pm
#464
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DCA
Programs: UA LT 1K, AA EXP, Bonvoy LT Titan, Avis PC, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,658
Does Chase Presidential Plus card still have a Hyatt benefit?
Could not find this anywhere. Those with Chase PP card - does the card still provide a Hyatt Elite status benefit?
I am getting my new Hyatt status from having a Chase Hyatt CC, but I thought the PP card had a higher level.
I am getting my new Hyatt status from having a Chase Hyatt CC, but I thought the PP card had a higher level.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:32 pm
#465
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: IAH
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hyatt Globalist, DL Plat, UA Silver
Posts: 4,043
They may only give you the 2nd tier now because the 3rd tier requires 30 nights.