Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Aug 3, 2016, 2:21 pm
#406
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG 75k, UA zilch, IHG Spire, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Plat, Hertz Gold, Avis Presidents
Posts: 1,302
This is a new(ish) and supremely annoying accounting thing. Basically they're showing all the additions, subtractions, and balances since jan 1 2015. THe math seems to work out right, but the presentation is not straightforward
Aug 3, 2016, 3:07 pm
#407
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 12
The main reason I kept a Pres Plus Card and a Club card was to upgarde my staus from Lifetime Gold to Plat. The ability to book, cancel and redposit without charges was the biggest benifit.
Well that goes away in October. $50 within 60 days..........
Such a rip.
First they take away Club access witout a boarding pass, in two weeks, now this.
There is not much of a reason to keep the card. Just what they wanted.
Kill off the old loyal members.
So Sad...........
Well that goes away in October. $50 within 60 days..........
Such a rip.
First they take away Club access witout a boarding pass, in two weeks, now this.
There is not much of a reason to keep the card. Just what they wanted.
Kill off the old loyal members.
So Sad...........
Aug 11, 2016, 11:40 am
#408
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Houston, TX USA
Programs: United Platinum, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Avis President's Circle
Posts: 569
Ok, I can't seem to find an answer to this via search or older posts in this thread regarding baggage.
I just purchased my first trip in a while where I need to care about the number of checked bags. Naturally, I used my legacy Presidential Plus card to utilize the two free bags per person benefit for my family of 3. However, my confirmation email (and also UA.com reservation summary) shows that only the first bag is free (I'm Silver).
Apparently, at some point in the last few years Chase dropped the free 2x bags benefit down to just 2 people per reservation, according to the summary page here:
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...nefits-new.htm
Does anyone have experience with having >2 people on a single PNR first hand? Really, do 2 of us get 2 free bags, and 1 of us only 1, or are all 3 of us out of luck and only getting 1 bag?
This is going to make a difference to me only in that I didn't use a UA gift cert to buy the ticket in order to make sure the charge went onto the Pres Plus card for the darn bag benefit, whereas I will refund it and use the cert and just ride the *Silver 1 free bag pp benefit otherwise.
TIA,
-CLG
I just purchased my first trip in a while where I need to care about the number of checked bags. Naturally, I used my legacy Presidential Plus card to utilize the two free bags per person benefit for my family of 3. However, my confirmation email (and also UA.com reservation summary) shows that only the first bag is free (I'm Silver).
Apparently, at some point in the last few years Chase dropped the free 2x bags benefit down to just 2 people per reservation, according to the summary page here:
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...nefits-new.htm
Does anyone have experience with having >2 people on a single PNR first hand? Really, do 2 of us get 2 free bags, and 1 of us only 1, or are all 3 of us out of luck and only getting 1 bag?
This is going to make a difference to me only in that I didn't use a UA gift cert to buy the ticket in order to make sure the charge went onto the Pres Plus card for the darn bag benefit, whereas I will refund it and use the cert and just ride the *Silver 1 free bag pp benefit otherwise.
TIA,
-CLG
Aug 11, 2016, 2:00 pm
#409
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1.65M , Platinum, 1K Emeritus, UC Lifetime , HHonors Gold, Presidential Plus card holder
Posts: 691
The benefit remains at 2 bags for the primary holder and one companion as far as I know. The copyright on the information sheet you linked to is 2016 so it appears that as long as you used your card, you should get 2 bags for 2 passengers on your PNR plus 1 bag for any other passengers on your PNR.
Aug 30, 2016, 12:18 am
#410
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA PLAT FPC PLAT
Posts: 123
The main reason I kept a Pres Plus Card and a Club card was to upgarde my staus from Lifetime Gold to Plat. The ability to book, cancel and redposit without charges was the biggest benifit.
Well that goes away in October. $50 within 60 days..........
Such a rip.
First they take away Club access witout a boarding pass, in two weeks, now this.
There is not much of a reason to keep the card. Just what they wanted.
Kill off the old loyal members.
So Sad...........
Well that goes away in October. $50 within 60 days..........
Such a rip.
First they take away Club access witout a boarding pass, in two weeks, now this.
There is not much of a reason to keep the card. Just what they wanted.
Kill off the old loyal members.
So Sad...........
Let us all write to United to protest this change!
Nov 22, 2016, 11:04 am
#411
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,283
Just got an iPhone 7 plus and added my PP Visa to Apple Pay. It now shows up in Wallet looking just like the real card, whereas on my previous phone and Ms Vandelay's phone it just shows up as a grey generic Visa.
Dec 31, 2016, 11:40 am
#413
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,120
Dec 31, 2016, 2:38 pm
#414
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.99MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,761
Dec 31, 2016, 4:00 pm
#416
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hoboken, NJ; Pembroke Pines, FL
Programs: CO Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,939
Still, it is nice and I am sympathetic to one's desire to have it as a benefit.
Note that the PQD waiver does not apply to the 1K level, just as the PP PQM doesn't count towards 1K qualification.
Dec 31, 2016, 4:30 pm
#417
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,373
rthless for quite a few of us. They won't even let us convert them to RDM.
Jan 1, 2017, 10:20 am
#419
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Denver, CO
Programs: UA 1K 25 years/2MM, Honors LT Diamond, AVIS & Hertz Prez Club
Posts: 4,751
Jan 1, 2017, 11:43 am
#420
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: CAK/CLE
Programs: UA Plat/AA,DL Dirt/HH Diamond,Hyatt Something-ist/Hz Prez,Avis Pres Club
Posts: 674
Here is what the app disclaimer reads today when you tap "Important information about your account" on the account summary page. It appears from this that the PQD waiver is still valid in 2017.
The account summary page also reflects the 4-flight minimum as waived for me, as I have the Presidential Plus card.
The account summary page also reflects the 4-flight minimum as waived for me, as I have the Presidential Plus card.
