Jan 5, 15, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Nov 12, 15, 11:02 am
#316
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
Posts: 9,152
I've recently discovered the metal PP card is superior to other plastic credit cards for jimmying your house door open when you forget to bring your keys with you and accidentally shut the door behind you. Also the Chase website makes it very easy to get a replacement with a few simple clicks since such use tends to destroy the card in the process.
RNE, a.k.a. "Public Enemy No. 1"
Jan 19, 16, 8:38 pm
#317
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold, PF Chang's Warrior, Wine Century 100
Posts: 1,066
I logged in to check my MP account tonight and noticed a Presidential Plus banner ad encouraging me to sign up for Hyatt Platinum status. Asked for my MP number, PIN, and Hyatt account number. Is the Hyatt status no longer automatic?
I filled out the form for the hell of it, system said it would take "4 weeks to process"
I filled out the form for the hell of it, system said it would take "4 weeks to process"
Jan 19, 16, 8:39 pm
#318
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 8,729
I logged in to check my MP account tonight and noticed a Presidential Plus banner ad encouraging me to sign up for Hyatt Platinum status. Asked for my MP number, PIN, and Hyatt account number. Is the Hyatt status no longer automatic?
I filled out the form for the hell of it, system said it would take "4 weeks to process"
I filled out the form for the hell of it, system said it would take "4 weeks to process"
Feb 8, 16, 12:26 pm
#320
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Denver, CO
Programs: UA 1K 24 years/2MM, Honors LT Diamond, AVIS & Hertz Prez Club
Posts: 4,679
I believe you mean the UC membership card, not the credit card, correct? The membership cards tend to arrive about 7-10 days before the end of the current membership, in my personal experience. As always, your experience may vary.
Feb 8, 16, 1:32 pm
#321
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,719
...and for what it is worth as a lifetime member for 15 years I've only received new cards when the branding changed.
Feb 8, 16, 1:33 pm
#322
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SEA or BGR, Lower Earth Orbit
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 17,157
Mine has always shown up in early September for an October expiration.
Feb 8, 16, 8:03 pm
#323
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Programs: UA 1K, AA Lifetime Platinum, DL Platinum, Honors Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium, Hertz Platinum
Posts: 7,868
Feb 8, 16, 9:13 pm
#324
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: many
Posts: 1,437
Feb 19, 16, 10:43 am
#325
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 57
I am a little surprised...
Even thought the Chase United Presidents card dropped Avis, I got a letter from the company saying that all my benefits are still in place. Guess Avis doesn't want to lose me as a customer.
===============
Welcome to another year of exclusive privileges with Avis President's Club®. Please continue using your existing Avis Wizard® Number for all your reservations.
Enjoy these benefits and more the next time you take the wheel:
• Guaranteed car availability - a vehicle will always be available to you, even if you don't have a reservation.
• Two-car-class upgrade - when you book an intermediate or higher car class, you automatically get a two-car-class upgrade whenever it is available.
• Chauffeur drive - your own personal driver, by the hour or by the day. Just call 800-272-5839.
• Eligibility for Avis Preferred Points* - opt-in and redeem points for free rental days, upgrades and accessories (like GPS and satellite radio).
• Dedicated 24/7 assistance - call 800-651-2847 to let us know how we can help you.
Even thought the Chase United Presidents card dropped Avis, I got a letter from the company saying that all my benefits are still in place. Guess Avis doesn't want to lose me as a customer.
===============
Welcome to another year of exclusive privileges with Avis President's Club®. Please continue using your existing Avis Wizard® Number for all your reservations.
Enjoy these benefits and more the next time you take the wheel:
• Guaranteed car availability - a vehicle will always be available to you, even if you don't have a reservation.
• Two-car-class upgrade - when you book an intermediate or higher car class, you automatically get a two-car-class upgrade whenever it is available.
• Chauffeur drive - your own personal driver, by the hour or by the day. Just call 800-272-5839.
• Eligibility for Avis Preferred Points* - opt-in and redeem points for free rental days, upgrades and accessories (like GPS and satellite radio).
• Dedicated 24/7 assistance - call 800-651-2847 to let us know how we can help you.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Feb 19, 16 at 11:47 pm Reason: split thread
Feb 19, 16, 10:47 am
#326
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SEA or BGR, Lower Earth Orbit
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 17,157
I am a little surprised...
Even thought the Chase United Presidents card dropped Avis, I got a letter from the company saying that all my benefits are still in place. Guess Avis doesn't want to lose me as a customer.
Enjoying my Chase Visa with Apple Pay. I would recommend everyone who wants the Apple Pay to call and ask to get you Master Card replaced with the Visa, as I did.
===============
Welcome to another year of exclusive privileges with Avis President's Club®. Please continue using your existing Avis Wizard® Number for all your reservations.
Enjoy these benefits and more the next time you take the wheel:
• Guaranteed car availability - a vehicle will always be available to you, even if you don't have a reservation.
• Two-car-class upgrade - when you book an intermediate or higher car class, you automatically get a two-car-class upgrade whenever it is available.
• Chauffeur drive - your own personal driver, by the hour or by the day. Just call 800-272-5839.
• Eligibility for Avis Preferred Points* - opt-in and redeem points for free rental days, upgrades and accessories (like GPS and satellite radio).
• Dedicated 24/7 assistance - call 800-651-2847 to let us know how we can help you.
Even thought the Chase United Presidents card dropped Avis, I got a letter from the company saying that all my benefits are still in place. Guess Avis doesn't want to lose me as a customer.
Enjoying my Chase Visa with Apple Pay. I would recommend everyone who wants the Apple Pay to call and ask to get you Master Card replaced with the Visa, as I did.
===============
Welcome to another year of exclusive privileges with Avis President's Club®. Please continue using your existing Avis Wizard® Number for all your reservations.
Enjoy these benefits and more the next time you take the wheel:
• Guaranteed car availability - a vehicle will always be available to you, even if you don't have a reservation.
• Two-car-class upgrade - when you book an intermediate or higher car class, you automatically get a two-car-class upgrade whenever it is available.
• Chauffeur drive - your own personal driver, by the hour or by the day. Just call 800-272-5839.
• Eligibility for Avis Preferred Points* - opt-in and redeem points for free rental days, upgrades and accessories (like GPS and satellite radio).
• Dedicated 24/7 assistance - call 800-651-2847 to let us know how we can help you.
Feb 19, 16, 11:11 am
#327
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,719
Feb 19, 16, 1:17 pm
#328
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 8,729
I didn't get an email from Avis. I haven't booked a car with them since November 2014, so maybe that had an impact on me not receiving a renewal notice?...
ETA: logged in and see it still says I'm a member of the President's Club. Maybe will use them, but IME Avis is almost always the most expensive choice, and with the 2.75k mileage bonus with Hertz, I have little incentive to switch back.
ETA: logged in and see it still says I'm a member of the President's Club. Maybe will use them, but IME Avis is almost always the most expensive choice, and with the 2.75k mileage bonus with Hertz, I have little incentive to switch back.
Last edited by PsiFighter37; Feb 19, 16 at 1:23 pm
Feb 19, 16, 2:36 pm
#329
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Morris County, NJ
Programs: UA 1K/*G, Avis Pres, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,195
I didn't get an email from Avis. I haven't booked a car with them since November 2014, so maybe that had an impact on me not receiving a renewal notice?...
ETA: logged in and see it still says I'm a member of the President's Club. Maybe will use them, but IME Avis is almost always the most expensive choice, and with the 2.75k mileage bonus with Hertz, I have little incentive to switch back.
ETA: logged in and see it still says I'm a member of the President's Club. Maybe will use them, but IME Avis is almost always the most expensive choice, and with the 2.75k mileage bonus with Hertz, I have little incentive to switch back.
National status-matched me to Exec Elite, so I've been booking National this year so far to try to keep it up for '17, figuring Avis PClub would go away.
If not, I'll GLADLY go back to Avis... they have been nothing but awesome to me. Really thrilled that PClub access remains!
edit: To add, I got the same email. Perhaps they should've sent it earlier; they wouldn't have missed out on all my January and February rentals.
Feb 19, 16, 7:57 pm
#330
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 57
I didn't get an email from Avis. I haven't booked a car with them since November 2014, so maybe that had an impact on me not receiving a renewal notice?...
ETA: logged in and see it still says I'm a member of the President's Club. Maybe will use them, but IME Avis is almost always the most expensive choice, and with the 2.75k mileage bonus with Hertz, I have little incentive to switch back.
ETA: logged in and see it still says I'm a member of the President's Club. Maybe will use them, but IME Avis is almost always the most expensive choice, and with the 2.75k mileage bonus with Hertz, I have little incentive to switch back.
I always select one of the mid-sized vehicles and walk away with a luxury vehicle every time. The two-class upgrade is worth it. Don't get that with Hertz.
