Jan 5, 15, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jun 8, 15, 2:57 pm
#286
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The PPlus card is a MasterCard. Did you recently do the swap for the chipped Visa card?
Jun 8, 15, 9:55 pm
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Jul 21, 15, 10:43 am
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...esplus-26.html
Aug 3, 15, 9:53 am
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Hi everyone.
I have a United (ex-Continental) Presidential Plus Mastercard.
I have a question about the rental car CDW.
Planning a trip to include car rental in Romania, Slovakia, and Poland in 2016.
Are these countries included in the primary CDW?
Does anyone have a link where I can view the details of the CDW?
Thanks!
I have a United (ex-Continental) Presidential Plus Mastercard.
I have a question about the rental car CDW.
Planning a trip to include car rental in Romania, Slovakia, and Poland in 2016.
Are these countries included in the primary CDW?
Does anyone have a link where I can view the details of the CDW?
Thanks!
Aug 3, 15, 11:01 am
#291
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Hi everyone.
I have a United (ex-Continental) Presidential Plus Mastercard.
I have a question about the rental car CDW.
Planning a trip to include car rental in Romania, Slovakia, and Poland in 2016.
Are these countries included in the primary CDW?
Does anyone have a link where I can view the details of the CDW?
Thanks!
I have a United (ex-Continental) Presidential Plus Mastercard.
I have a question about the rental car CDW.
Planning a trip to include car rental in Romania, Slovakia, and Poland in 2016.
Are these countries included in the primary CDW?
Does anyone have a link where I can view the details of the CDW?
Thanks!
1. where a coupon, discount or other mechanism results in a $0 rental charge before tax
2. a special category car, ie high-end sports car is rented
3. Israel, Japan and Ireland
Aug 3, 15, 11:35 am
#292
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Hi everyone.
I have a United (ex-Continental) Presidential Plus Mastercard.
I have a question about the rental car CDW.
Planning a trip to include car rental in Romania, Slovakia, and Poland in 2016.
Are these countries included in the primary CDW?
Does anyone have a link where I can view the details of the CDW?
Thanks!
I have a United (ex-Continental) Presidential Plus Mastercard.
I have a question about the rental car CDW.
Planning a trip to include car rental in Romania, Slovakia, and Poland in 2016.
Are these countries included in the primary CDW?
Does anyone have a link where I can view the details of the CDW?
Thanks!
Aug 3, 15, 11:36 am
#293
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I would call Chase to be absolutely sure, but in general, all coverage is primary and only excludes certain rentals:
1. where a coupon, discount or other mechanism results in a $0 rental charge before tax
2. a special category car, ie high-end sports car is rented
3. Israel, Japan and Ireland
1. where a coupon, discount or other mechanism results in a $0 rental charge before tax
2. a special category car, ie high-end sports car is rented
3. Israel, Japan and Ireland
Aug 3, 15, 11:46 am
#294
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I've only needed a letter like that once, in Costa Rica. Now I just carry a copy of it with me so I don't have to worry if/when asked by a rental agency that wants to charge me for something I d
n't need.
n't need.
Aug 5, 15, 3:33 pm
#295
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Pleasantly surprised to have received EMV-chipped Presidential Plus World Elite Mastercard. Only my security code changed. I'd been expecting a Visa like those who called in early.
Wife was upset to discover she'd been booted from club membership--a private message to customer service just suggested she apply for her own MP Club card. While annoying, this doesn't seem to change the benefits calculations for maintaining my PP account.
Having taken advantage of the one year MC National Car Executive promotion, should I expect that to continue past the 12/31/15 date noted on the Mastercard site?
https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/cons.../tab-content-4
Wife was upset to discover she'd been booted from club membership--a private message to customer service just suggested she apply for her own MP Club card. While annoying, this doesn't seem to change the benefits calculations for maintaining my PP account.
Having taken advantage of the one year MC National Car Executive promotion, should I expect that to continue past the 12/31/15 date noted on the Mastercard site?
https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/cons.../tab-content-4
Aug 6, 15, 10:51 am
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I would call Chase to be absolutely sure, but in general, all coverage is primary and only excludes certain rentals:
1. where a coupon, discount or other mechanism results in a $0 rental charge before tax
2. a special category car, ie high-end sports car is rented
3. Israel, Japan and Ireland
1. where a coupon, discount or other mechanism results in a $0 rental charge before tax
2. a special category car, ie high-end sports car is rented
3. Israel, Japan and Ireland
3 is no longer true as of 11/01/13, http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/35857
Thanks guys!
Chase is mailing me a hard copy of the full CDW language and sent me a phone number to discuss.
"Further, to confirm that there are no countries excluded
from the coverage, please call the Benefit Administrator
at 1-888-880-5844."
I need to call today. -- Just thought I'd put up the contact number for future reference.
Aug 6, 15, 11:00 am
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Be sure to get a letter of coverage that specifically includes the country.
In Israel Hertz wouldn't waive the CDW for me without a letter stating explicitly that Israel is covered.
In Israel Hertz wouldn't waive the CDW for me without a letter stating explicitly that Israel is covered.
Aug 10, 15, 8:44 pm
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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, ....[2014-2015]
Just wanted to let everyone know that I just received my Presidents Plus Visa card and was able to activate the new card on Apple Pay.
I was surprised to initially receive an EMV MC given that by the end of this quarter the entire Chase consumer credit card portfolio is supposed to be converted to Visa.
I was surprised to initially receive an EMV MC given that by the end of this quarter the entire Chase consumer credit card portfolio is supposed to be converted to Visa.
Aug 10, 15, 8:50 pm
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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, ....[2014-2015]
Sorry but haven't read this thread. Just received a new PP card with a chip? Extra security? I have an iPhone 6. Mean anything? Changes you'll like? LOL
Aug 11, 15, 12:47 am
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