Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
May 13, 2015, 8:06 pm
#271
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG 75k, UA zilch, IHG Spire, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Plat, Hertz Gold, Avis Presidents
Posts: 1,302
Should I not fly much on ua this year and drop my gold status, will my united club membership associated with this card allow me access to int'l star alliance lounges if I'm on a *a ticket that day? The *a website indicates so, but I read somewhere that the PP membership is excluded from that. Any knowledge?
May 13, 2015, 8:13 pm
#272
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: LAN, FNT, GRR, DTW
Programs: UA Plat
Posts: 346
Should I not fly much on ua this year and drop my gold status, will my united club membership associated with this card allow me access to int'l star alliance lounges if I'm on a *a ticket that day? The *a website indicates so, but I read somewhere that the PP membership is excluded from that. Any knowledge?
May 14, 2015, 12:10 am
#274
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,832
Correct that credit card will not work but if using UCs there is no need to have a physical UC membership card. Once the UC membership has been activated to your MP account -- a BP linked to you MP account is sufficient for enter to a UC.
May 20, 2015, 9:55 am
#275
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: United MileagePlus 1K
Posts: 33
Nope and they likely won't. I called in and asked about the EMV for the PP MC. They said they will be transitioning card holders over to PP Visa Signature and asked if I wanted to do that now. I said yes. So I got one. See here for pic and info:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24769187-post278.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24769187-post278.html
May 20, 2015, 11:13 am
#276
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,406
FYI - the PP card is a World Elite MasterCard ... and thus one gets National status as a World Elite benefit. They used to offer this with Avis but MasterCard seems to have switched its benefits away from Avis as well. Details here. (MasterCard is currently having IT issues linking the t
the National program but they promise it should all be up in a few days.)
the National program but they promise it should all be up in a few days.)
w.
May 22, 2015, 12:00 pm
#278
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 9,005
How long does this take to process? Ideally would like to get EMV before some international travel later this year.
May 24, 2015, 3:26 am
#279
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Programs: United Global Services, Lifetime Hilton Diamond
Posts: 353
I noticed the Wiki references the Club card as having the Hyatt and Hertz memberships, but the united website no longer lists these as benefits for the card if you apply for a new card. Has anyone heard whether on th PP card side, we might lose either of these benefits if United automatically switches us all to the Club Visa card and if yes, as of what date?
May 24, 2015, 11:55 am
#280
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,832
May 25, 2015, 8:06 am
#281
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: ORD/IND
Programs: UA Platinum, Avis Preferred, Hertz PC, Hyatt Discoverist , Marriott Titanium
Posts: 742
I noticed the Wiki references the Club card as having the Hyatt and Hertz memberships, but the united website no longer lists these as benefits for the card if you apply for a new card. Has anyone heard whether on th PP card side, we might lose either of these benefits if United automatically switches us all to the Club Visa card and if yes, as of what date?
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...nefits-new.htm
May 26, 2015, 4:12 am
#282
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Programs: United Global Services, Lifetime Hilton Diamond
Posts: 353
Is it possible that the link above is a zombie link that someone referenced before? I logged into my Chase PP account and clicked on a link about my benefits and received the following list of benefits, which do not mention Hyatt:
Rewards Program Details
TRAVEL
United Club Membership — up to $475 value
No Foreign Transaction Fees
First and Second Checked Bag FREE — savings of up to $120 per round trip
1,000 Flex PQMs for every $5,000 Spent
Premier Access
Special Guest Privileges through The Luxury Hotels & Resorts Collection
REWARDS
Earn one MileagePlus award mile on all purchases
Earn double miles on tickets purchased through United, as well as on eligible car rentals and hotel stays
Redeem for flights on all 28 Star Alliance Network Airlines
Use miles for car rentals and hotel stays
LIFESTYLE
Inside Access from Chase
Presidential Plus Concierge Service
PROTECTION AND SERVICE
Travel Protection Insurance
Comprehensive Purchase Protection
24/7 Customer Service specialists
Rewards Program Details
TRAVEL
United Club Membership — up to $475 value
No Foreign Transaction Fees
First and Second Checked Bag FREE — savings of up to $120 per round trip
1,000 Flex PQMs for every $5,000 Spent
Premier Access
Special Guest Privileges through The Luxury Hotels & Resorts Collection
REWARDS
Earn one MileagePlus award mile on all purchases
Earn double miles on tickets purchased through United, as well as on eligible car rentals and hotel stays
Redeem for flights on all 28 Star Alliance Network Airlines
Use miles for car rentals and hotel stays
LIFESTYLE
Inside Access from Chase
Presidential Plus Concierge Service
PROTECTION AND SERVICE
Travel Protection Insurance
Comprehensive Purchase Protection
24/7 Customer Service specialists
Jun 8, 2015, 9:26 am
#283
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,287
Does the 2 checked bags also apply to award tickets? Mine is only showing 1 bag in the PNR and that might be because I am Silver. I booked the flight using miles but paid the taxes/fees with my PPlus card.
Jun 8, 2015, 9:41 am
#284
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA Platinum, Starbucks Gold, PF Chang's Warrior, Wine Century 100
Posts: 1,105
I just booked a saver economy award ticket a few minutes ago, using miles, paid taxes with PPlus card. The confirmation/receipt shows 1st and 2nd bags free. I am Silver. This is for a domestic US flight.
Jun 8, 2015, 1:54 pm
#285
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, IHG Silver, Hilton Silver, Hertz PC, National Exec Elite, Avis PC
Posts: 1,287
Same here except I get 1. In the drop-down on the payment options page my card is listed as Visa, not MileagePlus Visa. Not sure if that's what's causing the problem. I emailed Premier Voice.