Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jan 20, 2015, 7:35 am
#212
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston
Programs: United MileagePlus Premier Silver/Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 360
Jan 20, 2015, 7:36 am
#213
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 61
They are showing Presidential on the website again so I called and confirmed.
I often do the paid upgrade at 24 hour check in which I thought might be indication of availability for comp if I was silver. Trying to weigh the pros and cons. A few times in first certainly spoils you from coach
I often do the paid upgrade at 24 hour check in which I thought might be indication of availability for comp if I was silver. Trying to weigh the pros and cons. A few times in first certainly spoils you from coach
Jan 20, 2015, 7:42 am
#214
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 29
They are showing Presidential on the website again so I called and confirmed.
I often do the paid upgrade at 24 hour check in which I thought might be indication of availability for comp if I was silver. Trying to weigh the pros and cons. A few times in first certainly spoils you from coach
I often do the paid upgrade at 24 hour check in which I thought might be indication of availability for comp if I was silver. Trying to weigh the pros and cons. A few times in first certainly spoils you from coach
I would just say don't count on being upgraded as silver ever, you'll be disappointed!
Jan 20, 2015, 7:55 am
#215
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,846
Note there have been 2? reports of successfully get upgraded to PP card in the past 12 months, so not impossible but does not seem to be standard and many have been declined.
CPU for silvers are rare on hub-hub flights but may be better on some spoke routes.
Jan 20, 2015, 8:10 am
#216
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 61
I would be careful about this assumption -- the old PP link is still there but others have reported it to be a zombie and on the United page if you go to the credit card page PP is not listed. So do you find the link by search or by following a link from the active pages?
Note there have been 2? reports of successfully get upgraded to PP card in the past 12 months, so not impossible but does not seem to be standard and many have been declined.
CPU for silvers are rare on hub-hub flights but may be better on some spoke routes.
Note there have been 2? reports of successfully get upgraded to PP card in the past 12 months, so not impossible but does not seem to be standard and many have been declined.
CPU for silvers are rare on hub-hub flights but may be better on some spoke routes.
Jan 20, 2015, 8:17 am
#217
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,846
Jan 20, 2015, 8:44 am
#218
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HaMerkaz/Exit 145
Programs: UA, LY, BA, AA
Posts: 13,167
For the record, I just went to UA.com and saw credit card partners. It listed Explorer, Explorer Biz, Club, etc. as well as a bunch of international options. Did not see PPlus mentioned
Jan 20, 2015, 8:57 am
#219
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 61
Sorry, the my account page, not my rewards. Here's the link it sent me to
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ate=2014-09-19
Jan 20, 2015, 9:08 am
#220
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: EWR, PHL
Programs: UA Silver, DL GM, Hertz 5*, Marriott Plat
Posts: 55
Sorry, the my account page, not my rewards. Here's the link it sent me to
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ate=2014-09-19
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ate=2014-09-19
Jan 20, 2015, 9:44 am
#221
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.6MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,694
The credit care page above, IMO, serves to inform existing card members of the benefits offered by the card that they may be holding. The MileagePlus Select card is also listed - and I believe is not actively offered anymore, either. [I've used it to quickly reference the benefits of the Presidential Plus card that I have.]
Jan 20, 2015, 10:24 am
#222
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SEA or BGR, Lower Earth Orbit
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 17,217
Sorry, the my account page, not my rewards. Here's the link it sent me to
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ate=2014-09-19
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ate=2014-09-19
I can only say good luck on getting it. There's apparently a secret handshake that you need to know to get the Pres Plus, which in all honesty none of us truly know if it works or not. There's only been two people that have been able to get the card here, since it was retired.
Mar 27, 2015, 2:52 pm
#223
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 15
United milage plus presidential card losing the avis benefits
I am really upset at Chase chaninging from Avis to Hertz. I encourage everyone that has this card to wire a letter to the chase office of the president voicing the frustration of losing the presidential plus status I am pretty sure a lot of you are upset losing this benefit and the end of the year and downgrading all of benefits to Hertz . I wish there was something that could be done does anyone know of any way to get the benefit back next year at all because you can earn the status at all. Please i encourage everyone to write in if you need the email to the chase ceo i have it .
Mar 27, 2015, 3:23 pm
#224
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: DCA or IAD (originally DUB)
Programs: UA 1K 1.8MM, Hertz PC, Marriott Platinum/Lifetime Gold
Posts: 7,657
Mar 27, 2015, 3:42 pm
#225
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.6MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,694
There was a code to extend your top Avis status as well, despite the change, but had to be done by 12/31/14