Random seat changes to UA itineraries after they are booked & purchased [ARCHIVE]
#1861
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If I had nothing to do with your initial unplanned seat move, and you had my seat moved to accommodate your needs, I would be beyond furious if the GA moved me without asking - make no mistake, I would be seated in my original seat in this case, and your seat loss is not really my concern. While I sympathize with the situation, and I have been a victim a number of times over the years, I would not expect a cabin of people to be reshuffled for my personal needs. Unless it's a FAM, which is very easy to figure out once onboard, and some rather brazen FTers have actually booted the FAM out by telling them they are in their seat and need to move, there is no other customer who should have the right to move another customer from their assigned seat, and this most definitely includes Global Service members no matter how long or loudly they cry and whine to customer service demanding their favorite seat. The easiest answer here would be to move that or those passengers who took your seats to the new seats you were assigned, and then move you back to your original seats so no one else would be affected by whatever happened.
So, while the LAX agents handled the issue to your satisfaction, it does not sound like they did so for anyone else affected by this issue. YYZ agents are contractors and generally useless for anything that isn't black/white they can run from a script.
So, while the LAX agents handled the issue to your satisfaction, it does not sound like they did so for anyone else affected by this issue. YYZ agents are contractors and generally useless for anything that isn't black/white they can run from a script.
#1862
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The agents should have consulted the other passengers and requested a voluntary change -- perhaps sweetening the pot with some miles.
Not saying UA should not have addressed your issue, but doing it unilaterally was wrong.
#1863
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Seat change due to aircraft swap of the same model
I'm going from ORD to HKG on the old UA 3-cabin 777. I was originally in 1C (read: bulkhead.) Just got a text saying that I had a new seat due to an aircraft swap. I logged into the website and noticed it was indeed the same old 3-cabin 777, however I was moved back a row from the bulkhead to the second row (2K.) Note that I upgraded using a GPU.
Has this happened to anyone else? Would UA put a paying GS in the bulkhead seat I had? Just curious...
Has this happened to anyone else? Would UA put a paying GS in the bulkhead seat I had? Just curious...
#1864
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This route gets Polarised regularly. When is the flight?
#1865
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I'm going from ORD to HKG on the old UA 3-cabin 777. I was originally in 1C (read: bulkhead.) Just got a text saying that I had a new seat due to an aircraft swap. I logged into the website and noticed it was indeed the same old 3-cabin 777, however I was moved back a row from the bulkhead to the second row (2K.) Note that I upgraded using a GPU.
Has this happened to anyone else?
Has this happened to anyone else?
very, very unlikely this was the original cause
FAM is far more likely -- especially a bulkhead
#1866
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I'm going from ORD to HKG on the old UA 3-cabin 777. I was originally in 1C (read: bulkhead.) Just got a text saying that I had a new seat due to an aircraft swap. I logged into the website and noticed it was indeed the same old 3-cabin 777, however I was moved back a row from the bulkhead to the second row (2K.) Note that I upgraded using a GPU.
Has this happened to anyone else? Would UA put a paying GS in the bulkhead seat I had? Just curious...
Has this happened to anyone else? Would UA put a paying GS in the bulkhead seat I had? Just curious...
It's likely either something happened with your original 3-class 777 and they had to sub the same, or they may have double-swapped before you had a chance to look. (Usually the latter gets you two text messages.)
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I was on a retrofitted 772 HKG-ORD for UA896 last Monday. Since I'm flying that route again soon I've been watching -- and it was a Polarisized bird twice since. Today it's a three cabin.
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Did you see any trend about day of the week? I'm flying UA896 HKG-ORD on a Monday in early December. I'm hoping for no Polarization as I managed to get a seat in the former First Class. My wife is hoping for Polarization as she also managed to get a seat in the former First Class due to the glitch on the first day that allowed Platinums to do it. And she knows she's going to get booted out now that there are no good seats left in the Business area. The sad part is that she paid 3 times more than I did for that segment as she's on a P fare and I'm on a W fare upgraded with miles and copay.
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Did you see any trend about day of the week? I'm flying UA896 HKG-ORD on a Monday in early December. I'm hoping for no Polarization as I managed to get a seat in the former First Class. My wife is hoping for Polarization as she also managed to get a seat in the former First Class due to the glitch on the first day that allowed Platinums to do it. And she knows she's going to get booted out now that there are no good seats left in the Business area. The sad part is that she paid 3 times more than I did for that segment as she's on a P fare and I'm on a W fare upgraded with miles and copay.
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This thread is so long don't know if this has been mentioned before but is the "60 hour point" prior to a flight when United pulls most of its {changes with} seats ? As a travel agent who books more air travel than ever I have long noticed at this 60 hour point United opens up a number of "additional" seats for pre-assignment at that time but now this long standing issue of people's seats being taken away from them might very well occur at that time as well. Anyone who can shed light on my "hypothesis" their thoughts/comments would be appreciated.
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#1874
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How common are these chances weeks out before departure? On a trip at the end of the year, I’ve had one seat assignment change on both the outbound and return.
One of them was in the second row in J - from an aisle in the middle to an aisle on the starboard side. The other is in Y, from a bulkhead seat to one row back, aisle.
The latter may have been an FAM from what I’ve read, but do they get assigned weeks out? And not sure what to make of the change in J. In both cases, didn’t get any notification about an aircraft swap or anything like that. Aircraft type has been the same - pmUA 3-class 772.
One of them was in the second row in J - from an aisle in the middle to an aisle on the starboard side. The other is in Y, from a bulkhead seat to one row back, aisle.
The latter may have been an FAM from what I’ve read, but do they get assigned weeks out? And not sure what to make of the change in J. In both cases, didn’t get any notification about an aircraft swap or anything like that. Aircraft type has been the same - pmUA 3-class 772.
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Interim 772 seat map with Polaris & potentially Premium Economy (2018)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...le-1k-gss.html